here's mine on swifts with ie fixed camber plates.

 

what tire size are you running?

 

How's the ride?

 

Love to know how they compare to the stock springs. Is the ride stiffer or they actually smoother?

 

the tire size is 2054517. i have these springs on the stock struts. the ride is very nice. they do get harsh on big dips on the highway but i think a good set of shocks will fix that

 

Thanks! I will be running same tires size, so its good to see because I love the drop. It's my daily so I didn't want anything drastic.

Thanks for the input on the ride quality as well. I will hopefully be installing mine today and the roads where I live are less then perfect so maybe I can get some input for others as well.

 

Would these work with Koni FSDs? I know you're not supposed to use lowering spring on them.

 

I'd say their much too firm for the Koni FSDs...it would probably be bouncy.

- Andrew

 

I'd love to pick up a set for my R53, but ... I don't see them listed anywhere on any of the vendors' websites in Swift's dealer listings.

Says STANCE here in Chicago is a dealer, but it looks like all they stock at 2.5" universal coilover springs.

 

Im sure if you contact any swift vendor they can order them for you, thats what I did.

 

STANCE is a Swift Dealer. Give them a call at 847.290.1531 and see if they can help you guys out.

I LOVE my Swift Springs on my Stance Coilovers. I have STANCE coilovers on my E36 M3 and Miata. Had Stances on all 5 of my 240SX's and my old IS300. The 60mm XR STANCE coilovers with Swift Springs was ridiculously awesome on my Convertible 240SX.

 

I am contemplating this as well and I too, have less than perfect roads where I live. Have you installed them? and if so, how is the ride?

Thanks

 

Yup I have them installed now, had the alignment done and installed some hsport rear camber arms and had some of the factory negative camber removed.

Overall, I am very pleased with how they ride. Over some of the bigger bumps/dips/potholes/etc. yes you can feel the difference, BUT I have lowered just about every car I have ever owned and to me, this is one of the more comfortable setups I have driven on. The drop to me is perfect for an everyday car and the ride is more then accceptable.

I do plan on changing to Koni Yellows down the line, but for now on OEM struts, with 55k on them, the car still rides great and handles fantastic.

Next adding a rear sway bar

 

blue2turbo,

Did you have the alignment done before you installed the rear control arms?
If so, do you remember what the camber numbers were in the rear before you took some out?

Your help is much appreciated - I was going to bail on these until I could afford koni's or bilstein B8's, but your review is making me lean towards doing this in stages.

ninjlao, (or any other suspension people out there), if you are still watching this thread, since the bumpstops were taken into account for the design, how would this work with a monotube design like the bilstein B8's?

Thanks

 

I had the alignment done after I installed the camber arms. I basically took the factory specs to the guys, had them set it to that, and cut the rear camber in half to give my a little less stress on the tires.

I want to get Koni's as well, I just didn't have the extra money right now. My stock shocks are still in good working order, maybe not as good as new, but still good, so I figured I would ride on these to give me a better ride, then later get the same happiness after I get Koni's... it's like getting smiles all over again

 

Someone just posted some used Bilsteins in the marketplace....please buy them so I'm not tempted! Get em revalved to match the Swifts and that's a killer set-up.

- drew

 

Thanks again blue2turbo for your opinions

Andyroo, I have read your build post and was wondering if you think that control arms are needed with this small drop.

Also, as a "bilstein guy" (like I said - I have been reading) are there any dampers that are adjustable, or if I go with bilsteins (new or used) are they all going to need to be revalved? (and who does this kind of thing?)

Sorry for all the questions, I just like to do things once, and correctly.

Oh yeah, and what do you think about my question regarding the 'active bumpstops' and a monotube style like the B8 (which is designed around lowering springs and shorter throw)

edit ... Through some more research I have now learned that the bumpstops in the bilstiens are internal at the bottom of the lower tube - I guess that these springs would require putting the mini bumpstops inside as a replacement? ... edit


thanks again

KT

 

I think adjustable control arms are worth it on a stock car, but that's just me. There is too much negative camber back there stock IMO and with a small drop you'll definitely want to take some out.

Bilstein doesn't have an adjustable damping fixed perch OEM style strut available, just their PSS9 coilovers. Great shocks but could use some custom linear spring rates so the cost and complexity goes up. There is also a set of H&R sport coilovers on the marketplace which use a Bilstein damper.....non-adjustable for damping and you'd want to add custom linear springs and probably revalve those too. I like my adjustable Koni Yellow shocks but I would have gone for the Bilsteins and had them revalved if a cheap used set popped up.

Bilstein USA (Poway, CA) will revalve, it's around 70 bucks a corner (a little more for coilovers). I hear the standard valving on the Bilstein sports is pretty firm and a revalve makes things a lot more comfortable. A well valved Bilstein is just incredible on the street and track. Basically you can tell Bilstein your spring rates and how you use the car and they will valve the dampers appropriately. Well worth it, especially if you're picking up used Bilsteins that may need a little freshening up anyway.

Don't worry about the bumpstops. They are internal. Possible to open them up and trim them but you probably don't need to.

- drew

 

Big time. It always amazes me that people are happy to run more neg camber in the rear than the front. And not just by a little bit.

PS Andrew, I sent you an email. You get it?

 

Yup, responding now.

- Andrew

 

Thanks again andyroo, it is nice of you to respond with such good answers.

I am thinking that I may have to stage this thing for financial reasons,

So I think that I will go with the IE fixed plates (on thier way)
TSW lower control arms (rubber bushings) - unless anyone on here has had problems

Stick with stock springs and shocks at least until I get used to driving this car - it is new to me (only a couple of weeks) and it is really squirrely with the nitto winters that came with it (I can feel the tread blocks wanting to tear off if I push too hard, then... epic understeer.

Thanks for the advice, and I think that you have given me a clearer plan on how to go about this thing - first car I have modded and because of this community, I am finding it a whole lot of (addictive) fun

Thanks again

E

 

No problem, glad to help. One more thing, if I had to choose between springs and shocks and I could only do one or I had to do one at a time, I'd do the shocks first. But that's just me! I went with both at the same time since I found a deal on some used Konis.

enjoy.

- andrew

 

Last thing, what would you think for these mild drop springs - the B8's (shorter rod internally - will this make the coils bind?) or B6's - will work because of the fact that it is a small drop? (you got me thinking of the used billy's in the marketplace

E

Thanks again

 

Personally, I would go with HSport control arms. I called up Waymotorworks to get the TSW ones (since they produce them) and even he recommended the HSport ones instead.

 

Did he give a particular reason why it is better to go with the h-sport ones?

Thanks