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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 05:07 PM
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H-Sport arms have zerk fittings that allow you to regrease the bushings without removing the bar. People have run them with zero complaints.

Personally though, I prefer spherical bearings to polyurethane, but I'm sure these would be an excellent street option.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 06:00 PM
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I see, I had a feeling that the ability to grease easily was the reason.

Thanks for chiming in
 
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 11:33 PM
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You're more than welcome
 
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 06:13 AM
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He said the same thing to me, the regreasable zerk fittings, also that he knew of customers running the same set of HSport control arms for like 7 or 8 years without any issues whatsoever. He said they run them on their cars also.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by killertomato
Last thing, what would you think for these mild drop springs - the B8's (shorter rod internally - will this make the coils bind?) or B6's - will work because of the fact that it is a small drop? (you got me thinking of the used billy's in the marketplace

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I thought that the Bilsteins were only available as a "sport" for the R53 chassis. Sometimes they're listed as "sport" front and regular "HD" rear.

- Andrew
 
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 01:52 PM
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I was just cruising around on bilsteins website and it looks like they have two options for 'sport' the B6 and B8 - After thinking about it, the B8 may have been developed for those who are slamming their cars - may be a question to ask the manufacturer when I decide to go down this road...

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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 02:29 PM
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Whoops... B6 are the HD and B8 are the sports

Sorry...
 
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Old Dec 23, 2011 | 04:24 PM
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I've got a Q for Ninjlao and/or Andyroo. Do you think the drop on
the Swift springs is closer to 1 inch or 3/4. The reason I ask is right
now I'm running with Tein H-Techs that dropped about 1/2 inch and
I'm at the point where I scrape about half the time coming into my way
too steep driveway. I could add something like the Madness under strut
thingys and gain 1/8 back. I like the Tein's but I think I'ed like the stiffer
Swift's better.

Thanks for any, and all your past, input.

Allen
 
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Old Dec 23, 2011 | 04:45 PM
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Beats me, I haven't seen them in person yet. I have Tein H-techs too.

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Old Dec 23, 2011 | 05:20 PM
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Thanks for input Andyroo. I think the H-Techs are a good combo of sporty
without beating you up. I would like to try the Swifts, but really afraid of
the scrape-age factor. My dream (I think) would be the Swifts with ZERO
drop. Yes I said it no drop. call me crazy but I like a little bit of suspension
travel.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2011 | 05:24 PM
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Indeed, or maybe the Swift spring rates with the h-tech drop. That would be nice.

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Old Dec 23, 2011 | 05:26 PM
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Nice!
 
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Old Dec 23, 2011 | 05:28 PM
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Well, headed back to the pre Xmas honey-do list.

Have a merry

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Old Dec 30, 2011 | 07:54 AM
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So after having these installed for a little while now, I can say that I definitely love the drop, its moderate, even, and doesn't make me have to be too cautious when going over speed bumps and such.

I will say, for my area where the roads are absolutely aweful, they are probably a bit too stiff. I am currently riding on stock struts and hoping that when I pair them with some Koni Yellows that it will make the ride slightly more comfortable.

On reasonable roads, they are great and I love everything about them, but on the bad roads, they can be rough.

For anyone else out there running them, do you have aftermarket struts or still on stock?
 
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Old Dec 30, 2011 | 09:15 AM
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How much worse is it compared to stock springs on stock struts on your roads?

My car road like crap with stock springs, stock struts, non-runflats, and s-lite wheels.

- Andrew
 
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Old Dec 31, 2011 | 07:21 PM
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i tried running these springs on my tired 65k mile shocks and after 500 miles i just couldnt stand them. on smooth roads theyre great, but once you hit a dip on highway it felt as though my car wanted to bottom out. now after i installed the koni yellows, my car rides great! handles the rough roads nicely. i have my konis set just a bit from full soft.

-steve
 

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Old Jan 1, 2012 | 05:05 PM
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Anyone running the Swifts with Koni Yellows on a Cabrio? I have Koni Yellows on stock springs. It's a JCW but I've heard because of the added weight of the Cabrio the springs arn't JCW. I'd like to get about 3/4 to 1 inch drop. I'm running stock 18's w/35 series tires with Willwoods.
 

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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 04:17 PM
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I recently returned from the track this weekend.

I drove the car on Willow Springs International Speedway. My favorite tidbit about this track is that it is a very high speed course. I have done several track days with these springs on it but those events were held at Streets of Willow, Horse Thief Mile, and Chuckwallah, which are all much more technical in comparison.

I feel that I need to post that the suspension feel is completely different even with the same setup from a tight, technical course transferring to a high speed course. In a high speed setting the car has to be steady and cornering speeds are capped off by the work of suspension and tires. So for those of you who are looking to decrease laptimes instead of super late braking for the tight corners, setting yourself up for the high speed corners will make the biggest impact.

The Mini clocked a 1.39 which is extremely impressive. This Mini was without a doubt, one of the fastest cars out there. The road was slightly wet in the morning, but it dried up as the day went on. If you have ever driven Big Willow before, you would know where a 1:39 would rank and how impressive it is for a car with the settings I used. The kicker is that I was running on 300 treadwear all season tires. The car was tuned by Revolution Mini the day prior before I headed over to the track. As for engine performance, I have the RMW Cylinder head, Shorty Header, and an Magnaflow exhaust. (15% pulley for those curious)

The suspension is very confidence inspiring. The cornering speeds were much quicker than most of the cars out there. The rear end of the car is extremely controllable and the understeer is very minimal, the Mini is really neutral and very controllable through the corners.

The one thing that held the Mini back is the open differential. The revs jumped on certain corners where I took a little too much load off of the inside front wheel. Ultimately, I had to change my lines from what I would typically run, in attempt to keep both wheels planted. A limited slip differential would have drastically improve my laptimes (which I have, but have not installed yet).
More obvious would be running an aggressive tire, which would pretty much turn this Mini into something else.

I was driving in the advanced group so I was the only 4 cyclinder car at the event. All the rest were Corvettes, Vipers, Porsches, and BMW's. I was also the only one on all-seasons while everyone else was on r-compounds. At the start of the day the Mini was by far the fastest car out on the track, but as their r-compounds warmed up they were pushing out quicker and quicker laptimes eventually over taking the Mini. I was about the 4th quickest car out on the track, as there were 2 Vipers, and an E36 (E46M3 motor swap) that ended up clocking faster times. However, the long list of cars that were behind the Mini was a sight to see.

I stated earlier that the springs were good enough for track use, but I'd like to modify that statement a bit. The springs even with stock shocks will outperform many cars out there with coilovers, but the adjustability of a coilover is always nice to have. All in all, these springs performed beyond my expectations out of the box.














 
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 05:18 PM
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NINJALO,
I'm very interested in getting a set of Swift springs for my '03.
I 'm installing Koni Yellows at the same time. Can I get a lead on where to
purchase these springs.
Cheers Ed
 
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 05:36 PM
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Eggburp...

http://www.evasivemotorsports.com/Me...de=SWIFT_SPECR

hope that this helps
 
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 05:42 PM
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I recall a post stating that RMW has em
 
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 05:55 PM
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Killertomato,

Perfect, exactly what I was looking for.

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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by killertomato
Have bought from them and even though I have an email from them that says it has been shipped, I did not receive a tracking number nor has it arrived yet (surprisingly the koni's I ordered a day later from another retailer with free shipping arrived before the springs, and I had to pay for UPS ground shipping). I will call them in the morning to follow up and see what the heck is going on.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 05:19 AM
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NICS,

Thanks for the heads-up.

MiniSuper Duke,

I'll check with Jan at RMW to see if he does
have a line to Swift springs.

Didn't think spring selection was going to be such a daunting task.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 05:19 PM
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Have bought from them and even though I have an email from them that says it has been shipped, I did not receive a tracking number nor has it arrived yet (surprisingly the koni's I ordered a day later from another retailer with free shipping arrived before the springs, and I had to pay for UPS ground shipping). I will call them in the morning to follow up and see what the heck is going on.
Following up on this thread to speak favorly for Evasive. I had contacted them via email due to my time zone and hours of working make it really hard to contact via telephone, and they responded very quickly which is surprising to me.

I found out that I did not recieve a tracking number from them because they had Swift ship my order out and the tracking number wasn't relayed to me. However, according to the FedEX tracking number, it was delivered on the 21st by being left on my front porch, 2 days after I placed an order with Evasive. I contacted Evasive again and explained to them that I had not received any packages and that I needed the springs by Saturday since that is when my appointment to install them. Evasive then says they will send out another set of springs to me, at no charge I believe, while Swift gets FedEX to conduct an investigation about what happened to my missing package.

So, to summarize, I think very highly of Evasive for working with me to try and get things resolved, and I would buy from them again.
 
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