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I'll see what I can do!
i will. Thanks for the tips. Definitely want to head down to the Ring.
i will. Thanks for the tips. Definitely want to head down to the Ring.
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I think they are fairly priced.
Under 2k I'd look at Bilstein PSS9, Eibach, or TSW KW's.
TSW's are the ONLY lowering spring worth considering IMO....everything else is too low and I'd prefer stock. They'll do well with Koni yellows or Bilsteins, front plates, rear bar, some bushings, etc.
But a coilover is ultimately a better way to go if you can afford it.
- Andrew
They can be rebuilt....in fact pretty soon my shop will be an authorized KW rebuild facility. Don't know if we can touch TSW's stuff though.
I think they are fairly priced.
Under 2k I'd look at Bilstein PSS9, Eibach, or TSW KW's.
TSW's are the ONLY lowering spring worth considering IMO....everything else is too low and I'd prefer stock. They'll do well with Koni yellows or Bilsteins, front plates, rear bar, some bushings, etc.
But a coilover is ultimately a better way to go if you can afford it.
- Andrew
I think they are fairly priced.
Under 2k I'd look at Bilstein PSS9, Eibach, or TSW KW's.
TSW's are the ONLY lowering spring worth considering IMO....everything else is too low and I'd prefer stock. They'll do well with Koni yellows or Bilsteins, front plates, rear bar, some bushings, etc.
But a coilover is ultimately a better way to go if you can afford it.
- Andrew
That's something I'd like to find out myself. 
I wish more suspension vendors posted total suspension travel and bump/droop at recommended ride heights. Especially since bump is so limited on these cars stock and a gain in bump would be wonderful.
- Andrew
I wish more suspension vendors posted total suspension travel and bump/droop at recommended ride heights. Especially since bump is so limited on these cars stock and a gain in bump would be wonderful.
- Andrew
KW uses shorter damper bodies [about 1.6" shorter] than some other coilovers, which means you can run the car 1.6" lower than stock and have the exact same travel ratio as stock [with 3.3" droop and 1.7" compression], lower ride height and no sacrifice in comfort / performance.
How does this compare to the others you recommended?
Oh I know....I was responding to James about something else. Sorry for the confusion.
Well no sacrifice in comfort and performance, not taking into account spring rates and valving.
Of course it's probably better than stock on both counts.... 
The Eibach Pro Street's use KW bodies, so they're likely the same as the KW's. TSW's are just revalved KW's.
Bilsteins just visually look like they use shorter bodies, but again i'd like to see it myself and get some numbers. Same with the H&Rs, which use Bilstein dampers but i don't know if they're the same body.
I have no interest in lowering the car 1.6" from stock, but lowering the car a half inch while gaining an *** ton of bump travel is my goal. I might need custom springs to do it if the provided springs are too short. Anyway, my plan is to probably go with Eibach or Koni coilovers with my own custom springs. That will be cheap and ride well. Should perform pretty good. Not very hardcore, but then neither am i.
I can't afford PSS9's and the linear springs i want to go with them, and although I could get the H&R's since it's a cheap, nice inverted monotube Bilstein damper, I'd like to see travel numbers and a shock dyno of them.
- Andrew
Well no sacrifice in comfort and performance, not taking into account spring rates and valving.
Of course it's probably better than stock on both counts.... The Eibach Pro Street's use KW bodies, so they're likely the same as the KW's. TSW's are just revalved KW's.
Bilsteins just visually look like they use shorter bodies, but again i'd like to see it myself and get some numbers. Same with the H&Rs, which use Bilstein dampers but i don't know if they're the same body.
I have no interest in lowering the car 1.6" from stock, but lowering the car a half inch while gaining an *** ton of bump travel is my goal. I might need custom springs to do it if the provided springs are too short. Anyway, my plan is to probably go with Eibach or Koni coilovers with my own custom springs. That will be cheap and ride well. Should perform pretty good. Not very hardcore, but then neither am i.
I can't afford PSS9's and the linear springs i want to go with them, and although I could get the H&R's since it's a cheap, nice inverted monotube Bilstein damper, I'd like to see travel numbers and a shock dyno of them.
- Andrew
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They can be rebuilt....in fact pretty soon my shop will be an authorized KW rebuild facility. Don't know if we can touch TSW's stuff though.
I think they are fairly priced.
Under 2k I'd look at Bilstein PSS9, Eibach, or TSW KW's.
TSW's are the ONLY lowering spring worth considering IMO....everything else is too low and I'd prefer stock. They'll do well with Koni yellows or Bilsteins, front plates, rear bar, some bushings, etc.
But a coilover is ultimately a better way to go if you can afford it.
- Andrew
I think they are fairly priced.
Under 2k I'd look at Bilstein PSS9, Eibach, or TSW KW's.
TSW's are the ONLY lowering spring worth considering IMO....everything else is too low and I'd prefer stock. They'll do well with Koni yellows or Bilsteins, front plates, rear bar, some bushings, etc.
But a coilover is ultimately a better way to go if you can afford it.
- Andrew
thought read that kw just exchanged cartridges in the past. good to know .
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They can be rebuilt....in fact pretty soon my shop will be an authorized KW rebuild facility. Don't know if we can touch TSW's stuff though.
I think they are fairly priced.
Under 2k I'd look at Bilstein PSS9, Eibach, or TSW KW's.
TSW's are the ONLY lowering spring worth considering IMO....everything else is too low and I'd prefer stock. They'll do well with Koni yellows or Bilsteins, front plates, rear bar, some bushings, etc.
But a coilover is ultimately a better way to go if you can afford it.
- Andrew
I think they are fairly priced.
Under 2k I'd look at Bilstein PSS9, Eibach, or TSW KW's.
TSW's are the ONLY lowering spring worth considering IMO....everything else is too low and I'd prefer stock. They'll do well with Koni yellows or Bilsteins, front plates, rear bar, some bushings, etc.
But a coilover is ultimately a better way to go if you can afford it.
- Andrew
FWIW I'm going with Eibach Multi-pro R2 with stiffer Swift Springs
Their web site isn't very good, but when I specified 2009 cooper S it gave FDS's as an option. In the spec's of the shock it states the eibach spring can be used. 
I would think the ideal (cheap) solution would be FSD's with TSW or NM springs. I'm not really a suspension junky thought, so I am just going off of what I have read.
I would think the ideal (cheap) solution would be FSD's with TSW or NM springs. I'm not really a suspension junky thought, so I am just going off of what I have read.
I just wonder whether or not I'm stretching the limits by speccing 10kg springs....
The more I find out, I seem to like the Eibach Multipros. They have adjustments on the bottom of the shocks so you do not have to remove the strut/shock assembly to make changes to a dampening rate.
Like the OP, I am looking for something that can be used for both street and track so it should not be too stiff.
Like the OP, I am looking for something that can be used for both street and track so it should not be too stiff.
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I think one can afford to go stiffer with Swift Springs, because they're so linear compared to most other springs. I had 6kg springs on my R53, wasn't stiff enough for me....