Thanks Randy,

I already got one from Dave Bunting before he moved to LA but I'll bet there are a few other cooper drivers in the Denver area that would love to take them off your hands.

Johnna


>>Jo,
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>>If you had the stock Cooper suspension, it would be a worthwhile mod. I have I think 6 of the stock S bars laying around, so feel free to call if you want one.
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>>If you have the Sport + suspension, it is the same bar.
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>>Randy
>>720-841-1002

 

Jo - if you wait a couple days Gabe Bridger will most likely be doing a review of this upgrade on his site. He has a Cooper that came with the Sport Suspension and after I took my shocks, springs, and rear sway bar from my MCS I Fedex'ed them to him for free as he will get more use out of them then I will with them sitting in the garage corner. I believe tommorow they are getting put on his car.

 

I'm extremely happy with my RDR bar. I started at the soft setting, which was great on the street. At my first autocross, it still understeered a little, so I put it at the middle setting and now have nearly perfect front/rear balance. My other suspension mods are H&R Springs, and RDR rear camber links. The handling is basically neutral, except for really slow, really sharp corners, where it pushes a little at turn in. I may go to the stiffest setting on the bar, but I don't want any oversteer at apex, so I may go with camber plates. I hear Helix13 is working on a reasonably priced set with camber adjustment. There goes my next paycheck.

 

Have the 22mm Progress rear anti-sway bar. Can't complain. Ordered from Moss.

 

>>Certainly larger brakes stop the car faster, but more importantly, it takes longer for them to heat up and begin fading on you.
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Actually, larger brakes don't stop the car better. If anything, the increase in rotational mass will make the car stop worse. If the current braking system on the car can get the wheels to lock up (or in our case engage the ABS) then larger brakes won't help.

They WILL help if you are doing track events and experiencing brake fade related to pad/rotor heat.

Sorry to go off-topic, but I see this comment a lot, and it isn't true.

 

Hah! Next you're going to tell us a bigger engine won't make a car go faster because the engine increases the weight of the car so much.
Example: a Ford Focus (base) has a stopping distance of 206 feet, a Focus SVT, which has bigger brakes than the base focus (and bigger wheels which further increase rotating mass) has a stopping distance of only 174 feet.


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>>Example: a Ford Focus (base) has a stopping distance of 206 feet, a Focus SVT, which has bigger brakes than the base focus (and bigger wheels which further increase rotating mass) has a stopping distance of only 174 feet.
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The difference would be in the tires to reduce stopping distance assuming the weight of the cars are the same. Both stock and SVT brakes will invoke the ABS so the only way one could stop faster is if the tires held their grip longer without skidding.

I agree with YellowMiniS, same car with same tires and same wheels will not stop faster with bigger brakes... Only benifit to bigger brakes is at the point the stock brakes fade (which is after repeated use where temps have exceeded stock braking capibility) only then will the big brakes stop faster and it's not that the big brakes are stoping faster, it's that the stock brakes are loosing their braking abilities and can no longer invoke the ABS. I posted a comparison awhile back where this was tested and the big brake kit braking distance was a few feet further than the stock brakes cold.

 

Brake changes that help you modulate braking are the best.

While it seems like this would be the case with a big brake kit I'd be guessing. When something requires a lot of effort it's difficult to modulate. The previous poster's are technically correct that you won't stop any faster, but if greater control is what you're after perhaps they're worth doing (?)

What I'm sure of is that if you get a good match of rotor and pad materials you can gain a tremendous amount of feel that you can use to your advantage.

(E.g. Ductile iron rotors versus cast iron rotors vs. stainless. Sintered pads vs. non-sintered, etc.)

Jeff