Suspension Springs, struts, coilovers, sway-bars, camber plates, and all other modifications to suspension components for Cooper (R50), Cabrio (R52), and Cooper S (R53) MINIs.

Suspension 03Indigo's Vogtland adventure :)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 27, 2007 | 10:02 AM
  #26  
sportek1's Avatar
sportek1
2nd Gear
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 79
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by 03Indigo
I just sent off 2 emails to Vogtland, and Vogtland US office. I want to verify both spring rates and if there are manufacturing differences or specification differences on the internals. I just pulled the entire assembly apart, front and rear. There are 2 stampings, one says KW tuning, and the other says Vogtland...both on the shock body.
look closely at the bumstops ... i remember that a lot of those have KW imprinted on them. Also look at the packing/box ... go find a pic of the KW's and try to explain why someone in Germany wants to copy exactly the same box design ... Koni, Bilstein, H&R ... all use different box designs.


Originally Posted by 03Indigo
So, does KW make the body and Vogtland make their internals? Or does Vogtland specify what they want, valving, seals, etc...and KW manufactures it for them with Vogtlands guidance?
Vogtland makes springs, and so the internals of the Vogtland shocks are made by KW. I doubt that the settings will be different to the Weitec shocks, because ... why change an already good setting???
 
Reply
Old Sep 27, 2007 | 10:34 AM
  #27  
03Indigo's Avatar
03Indigo
Thread Starter
|
User Title's are Silly
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,022
Likes: 0
From: Arvada, Colorado
...
 

Last edited by 03Indigo; Apr 28, 2008 at 04:29 AM.
Reply
Old Sep 27, 2007 | 12:10 PM
  #28  
PGT's Avatar
PGT
Banned
iTrader: (11)
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 7,681
Likes: 1
From: DC Metro
why is it important to know where they are made? rebuilds, that's why. Ask Jon or me about Cusco
 
Reply
Old Sep 27, 2007 | 02:39 PM
  #29  
03Indigo's Avatar
03Indigo
Thread Starter
|
User Title's are Silly
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,022
Likes: 0
From: Arvada, Colorado
....
 

Last edited by 03Indigo; Apr 28, 2008 at 04:29 AM.
Reply
Old Sep 27, 2007 | 05:05 PM
  #30  
sportek1's Avatar
sportek1
2nd Gear
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 79
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by 03Indigo
EXACTLY!!! Having to send out a kit to Japan for a rebuild is not good. The Vogtlands can be sent to California for a rebuild, although, with their technology, they should not need it anywhere near as much as a standard coilover, according to Vogtland. They should have the life of a standard shock.
For the KW variant 1/ Weitec / Vogtland, they do not 'rebuild' the shock, if you look at the top of your shock body, you will see a few holes, these holes are there to remove the top of the shock body, such that you can put a fresh shock insert into the shock body.
 
Reply
Old Sep 27, 2007 | 05:24 PM
  #31  
PGT's Avatar
PGT
Banned
iTrader: (11)
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 7,681
Likes: 1
From: DC Metro
great! the point still stands that country of origin and location of service and cost of that service has a lot to do with making an informed purchase. one of the reasons I got my Bilsteins is the ability to get them serviced in the US vs. some other brands that must go back to Japan. You obviously already know all this since you work for a yet to be named manufacturer.
 
Reply
Old Sep 27, 2007 | 06:22 PM
  #32  
03Indigo's Avatar
03Indigo
Thread Starter
|
User Title's are Silly
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,022
Likes: 0
From: Arvada, Colorado
...
 

Last edited by 03Indigo; Apr 28, 2008 at 04:28 AM.
Reply
Old Oct 1, 2007 | 02:06 PM
  #33  
03Indigo's Avatar
03Indigo
Thread Starter
|
User Title's are Silly
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,022
Likes: 0
From: Arvada, Colorado
...
 

Last edited by 03Indigo; Apr 28, 2008 at 04:28 AM.
Reply
Old Oct 1, 2007 | 03:13 PM
  #34  
ChrisMCS04's Avatar
ChrisMCS04
Peace Keeper
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,747
Likes: 1
From: Defiance, Ohio
Very nice bit of information 03Indigo. Can't wait to see how the install goes.
 
Reply
Old Oct 1, 2007 | 03:39 PM
  #35  
PGT's Avatar
PGT
Banned
iTrader: (11)
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 7,681
Likes: 1
From: DC Metro
Originally Posted by 03Indigo

They will be installed in 2 days
slacker!!
 
Reply
Old Oct 1, 2007 | 03:53 PM
  #36  
03Indigo's Avatar
03Indigo
Thread Starter
|
User Title's are Silly
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,022
Likes: 0
From: Arvada, Colorado
...
 

Last edited by 03Indigo; Apr 28, 2008 at 04:28 AM.
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2007 | 12:22 PM
  #37  
03Indigo's Avatar
03Indigo
Thread Starter
|
User Title's are Silly
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,022
Likes: 0
From: Arvada, Colorado
...
 

Last edited by 03Indigo; Apr 28, 2008 at 04:28 AM.
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2007 | 12:53 PM
  #38  
ChrisMCS04's Avatar
ChrisMCS04
Peace Keeper
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,747
Likes: 1
From: Defiance, Ohio
Great to hear Indigo. Can't wait to se pics.
 
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2007 | 02:34 PM
  #39  
old81's Avatar
old81
M6
iTrader: (1)
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 7,440
Likes: 0
From: Louisville, Colorado
So that is what I missed by not coming down to Parker today. Good it went well and you like the results.

Can't wait to see the MINI and take a spirited ride. Will wait for some good pictures when you get rested up.
 
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2007 | 05:19 PM
  #40  
03Indigo's Avatar
03Indigo
Thread Starter
|
User Title's are Silly
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,022
Likes: 0
From: Arvada, Colorado
...
 

Last edited by 03Indigo; Apr 28, 2008 at 04:28 AM.
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2007 | 09:39 AM
  #41  
03Indigo's Avatar
03Indigo
Thread Starter
|
User Title's are Silly
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,022
Likes: 0
From: Arvada, Colorado
...
 

Last edited by 03Indigo; Apr 28, 2008 at 04:28 AM.
Reply
Old Oct 10, 2007 | 08:23 PM
  #42  
ChrisMCS04's Avatar
ChrisMCS04
Peace Keeper
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,747
Likes: 1
From: Defiance, Ohio
Nice looking photos
 
Reply
Old Oct 17, 2007 | 10:20 AM
  #43  
rjtrout2000's Avatar
rjtrout2000
6th Gear
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,307
Likes: 1
How are they workin for ya indigo?
 
Reply
Old Oct 17, 2007 | 10:26 AM
  #44  
03Indigo's Avatar
03Indigo
Thread Starter
|
User Title's are Silly
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,022
Likes: 0
From: Arvada, Colorado
...
 

Last edited by 03Indigo; Apr 28, 2008 at 04:27 AM.
Reply
Old Oct 17, 2007 | 10:30 AM
  #45  
PGT's Avatar
PGT
Banned
iTrader: (11)
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 7,681
Likes: 1
From: DC Metro
cuanto cueste?? (how much?) you might have already post this
 
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2007 | 10:34 AM
  #46  
PGT's Avatar
PGT
Banned
iTrader: (11)
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 7,681
Likes: 1
From: DC Metro
Originally Posted by PGT
cuanto cueste?? (how much?) you might have already post this
 
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2007 | 10:36 AM
  #47  
03Indigo's Avatar
03Indigo
Thread Starter
|
User Title's are Silly
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,022
Likes: 0
From: Arvada, Colorado
...
 

Last edited by 03Indigo; Apr 28, 2008 at 04:27 AM.
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2007 | 10:37 AM
  #48  
PGT's Avatar
PGT
Banned
iTrader: (11)
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 7,681
Likes: 1
From: DC Metro
wow...very nice
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Gil-galad
Eastern Iowa MINIs
63
Nov 17, 2016 02:54 PM
JaysinStrife
Suspension
7
Sep 7, 2015 12:52 PM
JaysinStrife
Suspension
0
Sep 1, 2015 08:07 AM
ECSTuning
Vendor Announcements
0
Aug 12, 2015 01:24 PM
ECSTuning
Vendor Announcements
0
Aug 7, 2015 08:02 AM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:40 AM.