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03Indigo's Vogtland adventure :)
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Let us know how these turn out. I have been sceptical about these for the mini as well. I was on ebay a while back and found them, but did no know anything about the company other than it was German. I'll be waiting to see how you like them.
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wow....I happened on these the other day by searching for some 2.5" springs. Good to know you're giving them a go :)
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nice! I never did hear back that they were received (though Fedex told me they were :lol: ) glad it went well :wink:
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Vogtland is a spring manufacturer and not a coilover manufacturer. Vogtland coilover shocks are made by Weitec, which is a KW subsidary. If you go to the Weitec site you will see that everything is the same, except for the springs, which are of coz made by Vogtland themselves :nod: . |
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Are these made in asia?:lol: Sorry, I had to. Keep us posted - do you track your car ever?
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Originally Posted by mbcoops
(Post 1773190)
Are these made in asia?:lol: Sorry, I had to. Keep us posted - do you track your car ever?
mb http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...krnewzflip.gif |
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Funny stuff. I'm looking forward to the track review...
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This is a photo of the Weitec kit.
Look how similar (= the same :lol: ) the brackets look and even the stickers are printed in the same style... Also the color of the shocks are the same. |
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Bilstein makes H&R dampers, do they not?
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Originally Posted by 03Indigo
(Post 1773880)
further more....are you going to tell me that these 2 H&R kits are the same because the shock bodies look the same?
http://www.outmotoring.com/images/P/...lovers3_md.jpg http://www.outmotoring.com/images/P/...oilover_md.gif yes these shock bodies are the same ... Both of these H&R (red springs vs green springs) use the same shock body, but the inverted shock damper within the shock has a different damping characteristic. |
Originally Posted by 03Indigo
(Post 1773853)
for example, here are the H&R set, notice how similar the color and stickers are. If that is the case, then you are telling me that all 4 shock bodies are the same, KW, Weitec, H&R, and Vogtland.
and here is a shot of the KW version http://new.minimania.com/images/NMS3006.JPG |
Originally Posted by 03Indigo
(Post 1773853)
for example, here are the H&R set, notice how similar the color and stickers are. If that is the case, then you are telling me that all 4 shock bodies are the same, KW, Weitec, H&R, and Vogtland.
Weitec is owned by KW, and KW is making the Weitec coilover shocks, however, Weitec shocks are galvanized, whereas KW shocks are stainless steel. Vogtland just makes springs and buys the coilover shocks from KW/Weitec. H&R are totally different, different monotube shock design, whereas the Weitec, KW and Vogtland are twintubes. There is at least one other big name who are buying coilover shocks from KW ... guess who :wink: |
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This is getting interesting. I am just curious to see how they preform.
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
I still don't get it why people think it is so important to know where and who makes the coilover bodies, as long as there is a professional company behind the products. I have a lot of suspension industry knowledge (since i work with a few of the biggest coilover manufacturers), and just like in most other industries a lot of products are made by a few core manufacturers, but often in (slightly) different specifications. It is very interesting to see that similar products using different brands/marketing can have totally different feedback, sometimes even by the same user ... PLACEBO EFFECT? |
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