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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 09:39 PM
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That's pretty much what the directions said - before installing the coilovers, raise the lower spring perch so that the spring is snugly held between the perches, but no more than that.

That's how I installed them, and I haven't changed the preload since then, since the ride height is adjusted by using the threaded lower mount to adjust the length of the shock body, rather than by adjusting the preload.
Mine were preloaded from the factory, so we just installed them as is .
 
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by rustyboy155
I wasn't referring to your comment Chris, I was just trying to answer your question, sorry if it seemed like I was taking a shot at you. I was talking about Don's comment regarding the necessity of a rear sway bar when under normal street conditions I can throw my back end around with little more than a quick jerk of the steering wheel.

As to "Full Race Setups". Some people want to spend the extra 15k for that 3% improvement. I'd rather spend that money on mods that actually do something.

I can't think of any application for the MINI that these coilovers wouldn't be sufficient. Perhaps if you were competing in an international cup race or something against hundreds of top notch drivers . For the average Joe Schmoe that used to go to the track with his stock suspension, these are night and day difference.
Thanks for clearing this up as well. Much appreciated and no harm done. Just a misunderstanding.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 03:41 PM
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What are your camber settings? And, does anyone have pictures of the camber plates installed in the engine bay?

How would the Cross' compare with TSW's new AST coilovers?
 
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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 03:51 PM
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Here's a pic from another thread: This is from an R56, but they look pretty much the same in my R52.

 
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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 06:22 PM
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awesome thank you...am i reading the photo correctly...it shows no camber?
 
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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 06:35 PM
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Well, if you look closely, the alignment marks aren't in the middle of the adjustment range, so there's probably some camber dialed in.

Also, even if the alignment marks *were* in the center, I don't think that would necessarily mean that the overall camber was zero. There are other factors, such as the angle of the tops of the strut towers, that would affect the camber.

I think the index marks are just there so that you can set the camber accurately and repeatedly, not to indicate an exact amount of camber.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 07:24 AM
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What does the screw in the middle adjust? I was looking at the TSW/AST coilovers and they have a nice **** there...
 
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 03:22 AM
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Okay since my stupid question ended this thread....i would like to ask what is the update on everyone's settings both stiffness and camber? THanks...
 
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 06:05 AM
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Front 2.5 degree Neg 1/32 toe out shock setting 7s
Rear 1.5 degree Neg zero toe
 
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 06:27 AM
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how about teh rear shock setting? did you mean 7 clicks from full soft?
 
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by PGT
how about teh rear shock setting? did you mean 7 clicks from full soft?
yes... this is on a GP with stock swaybars

you may need more in the back on a regular S
 
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 08:13 AM
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I am running 8 front and 6 rear....getting an alignment Monday...I have a larger RSB..
 
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 08:59 AM
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yes... this is on a GP with stock swaybars

you may need more in the back on a regular S

why is a GP different? besides the rear aluminum bits I mean? I'm running a 22mm bar
 
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 09:08 AM
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why is a GP different? besides the rear aluminum bits I mean? I'm running a 22mm bar

it's lighter
 
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 08:37 PM
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Thanks Jan, I already had your settings. I was curious about any others. I'll scan in my alignment settings printout. I believe I ended up somewhere around -2.25 front, -1.75 rear, and 1/32" toe in (alignment guys recommendation) on the rear and negligible toe out on the front (.05"?). The car was lowered about 1.25 from stock....but my feeling is the back is a tad low and will probably raise it up 1/4" in the back....

oh and 7 in the front and 8 in the rear
 

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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 08:40 PM
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did you get the rear adjusters installed or leave them off?
 
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 08:45 PM
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left em off....god i hope i dont have to re-adjust the dampers in the back lol....but already I feel like it could be stiffer in the back...
 
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