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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 05:47 AM
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I cant decide between megan and koni coilovers for my car,can anybody help?
 
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 07:25 AM
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they are somewhat different animals: the megans provide more adjustability (independent height adjustment, etc) and I think have linear springs. Koni has its reputation for quality, their coil-overs are simple, don't offer independent height adjustment and changing the setting of the rear shocks requires removal & disassembly of the struts.

I personally have had no issue with my Koni's, I'm running my car around 1.5" lower than stock and don't feel there is any issue with the reduced suspension travel. If you want to often change the settings go with the megans, but note the number of threads about issues with the megans from a few of the users...

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I cant decide between megan and koni coilovers for my car,can anybody help?
 
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 10:52 AM
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thanx cool daddy for your input,i did take note of some earlier threads about the megans .I was steering towards the konis because of their reputation and warranty but was also wondering why the koni coilover is not as sought after as some other brands in our great community.What swayed your decision,cool daddy
 
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 10:59 AM
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Koni developed a proprietary kit for a vender - not the Dinan kit. It was not a good experience...and perhaps that fellow will chime in. Koni could not get the ride height/suspension travel relationship right. A longish story, but the car would have made a great SUV...

Megan had their share of problems and most if not all are worked out; I did a lot of R&D work with them without really being told I was performing R&D. But Steve was incredible thru the entire process.

If you buy these, or the JIS kit - more money but similar in setup only - you'll have two kits that have gone thru the R&D process. You can PM me if you want more info...or another opinion.

Michael
 
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 11:01 AM
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simply put Koni is from the land of wooden shoes, windmills and tulips and that's where I'm from, plus I got them cheap

seriously; I took a chance when a great deal came along... there are better coil-overs out there and next time I would probably take a serious look at what TSW is currently offering... they seems to have their act together, and AST is also from Holland

anyway, good luck.


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thanx cool daddy for your input,i did take note of some earlier threads about the megans .I was steering towards the konis because of their reputation and warranty but was also wondering why the koni coilover is not as sought after as some other brands in our great community.What swayed your decision,cool daddy
 
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 11:02 AM
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WrXmini,

maybe I can help too,

You are right, for some reason the Koni coil over kit here on NAm are not popular at all, maybe the reason is they are not as adjustable as some other coil over kits, like the PSS9 or the M7 and other brands. Koni as a single adjustment, and the rears have to come out to reach the adjuster.
Also a lot of track oriented mini drivers like to use a linear spring.

The Koni coil over kit is basically a shock identical to the Koni yellow, with a threaded sleeve and a progressive spring.

For me, I still think that it is a good product, and the price is reasonable.


Victor
 
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 11:47 AM
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Im happy with my H&R fixed dampning coilovers, 999 at turner morotsports, ride height is adjustableand Im lowered about 1 3/4 inches. The Dampning seems to be set at a good point between my street driving and a few track days. If i ever upgrade, I like the sound of the new TSW co's or the M7

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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 11:48 AM
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thanx everyone for jumping on this issue,might spend the extra moolah and get the bilsteins
 
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 12:00 PM
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OasisT has a killer deal on used KW variant2s..

that is if he hasn't come to his senses.

Search for the thread. They came from Tony Nuzzos grand am car, so may be a bit radical for the street. But the deal can't be beat!

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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 02:02 PM
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doesn't sound like the Koni coil-overs we're talking about...

Originally Posted by meb
Koni developed a proprietary kit for a vender - not the Dinan kit. It was not a good experience...and perhaps that fellow will chime in. Koni could not get the ride height/suspension travel relationship right. A longish story, but the car would have made a great SUV...

Michael
 
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 09:54 PM
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thanx everyone for jumping on this issue,might spend the extra moolah and get the bilsteins
The PSS9's are a tried-and-true setup for the street - a lot of local track junkies run them around here and they've not found themselves wanting more. The PSS9's are daggone bulletproof, too. They use a progressive spring set up front...

Our focus is track/AX oriented and we use slightly different bits to make a suspension that really performs on the track... It's still streetable, however, with our standard spec 60 kg/cm (about 336 lb/in) springs. We like linear springs because we think they allow the car to take a better set in the corner and load with more predictability. However, they are not for everyone, especially if you want a large drop in ride height - personally, I think they ride better than OEM, but my butt is hardened from years of track/AX abuse.

One of the most important things with ANY coilover setup is to get you car properly corner-weighted after install - else, all that money you spent on coilovers is really wasted. To achieve optimal handling, you need to have the car corner-weighted and aligned. There are a lot of people running around on coilovers that haven't been properly set up - the car may look good, but the handling could be a whole lot better. Factor in the cost of making the most of your setup - prices for corner-weighting and an alignment vary, but you can figure on at least $300 in additional outlay to get it right.
 
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