yup... firmer up to the point where it's "infinitely" firm (if you hit the bump stop really really hard)...

heck, you could even say that the mushrooming strut towers are a "not infinitely firm bumpstop" if you really wanted to.

I like suspension travel.

 

same could be said for your tires and by extension, your wheels

 

Tires are definitely a part of the suspension. Wheels? Well, I guess if you bend them.

My posts are probably getting interperted in a way I didn't intend.

You're right, bump stops are often designed in as an active suspension part to give a progressive rate at the extreme end of the shock travel, so you don't go directly from whatever the natural spring rate of the shock is to "infinite rate" when the spring stops compressing.

And some cars are designed to "corner on the bump stops".

I just think it makes sense (to me, anyway) to save that last little bit until you really need it.

 

I had a long talk about this with one of the product guys from Koni. He mentioned sticking to about an inch lower than stock or less for proper stroke since the MINI has a very short travel suspension. Interesting, since they sell a kit which lowers more than that. Just goes to show you that marketing > max performance sometimes

 

For that matter sport springs should not allow you to go onto the bump stops if they do then i would try to get a stiffer spring rate.