I just got mine from Amazon.com the other day. They have both the 12000 and 8000 models for $40.99 and $31.49 respectively. Other than the low price, lower than I've been able to find elsewhere, the shipping was free.

The two models are similar in size, the 12000 is 1" longer and wider, is bit beefier and supports more weight, but they both have the same 17 degree angle of incline.

They work great on my lowered MCS, I can drive up both front and rear without scraping.

 

"If a man found a genie, and the genie granted him a wish; and the man wished that his wish would not be granted, then could the genie grant the wish?"

How could anyone tell?

 

only if the tree fell on you ...