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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 09:03 AM
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Oil Catch Can restrictions

I've noticed that the OCC lines on my 07 MCS have a significantly smaller diameter than the stock Valve Cover to intake tube. The stock piece looks to be about 1" or so, while the aftermarket OCC lines are only 3/8". This is a 0.785in^2 cross sectional area compared to a 0.11in^2 area, ultimately resulting on a ~86% decrease in volume. In order for the mass flow rate to be the same (the same volume of air traveling through the PCV hose in a given amount of time), the velocity of the air needs to be increased proportionally. This would require a increase of vacuum/pressure to do this. Anyone else have any thought on this? I see that many of these OCC's that are sold have a way smaller tubing diameter that looks like a big restriction point to me. Just thinking about how changing this parameter might affect the overall dynamics of the intake system and give rise to a rich running condition.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 09:58 AM
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the OEM hose is ~3/4" .. replacing it with 1/2" hose did not result in ANY vacuum or boost change..none.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by cornjuice
the OEM hose is ~3/4" .. replacing it with 1/2" hose did not result in ANY vacuum or boost change..none.
Im not saying it would change vacuum or boost, just wondering if it would cause a rich condition since the ECU is expecting a certain amount of air from the pcv system. Not stating anything directly, just wondered if anyone brought this issue up before. Thanks for the feedback though!
 
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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 11:36 AM
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well my train of thought is: if vacuum doesnt change, the amount of air/flow/pressure/CFM should remain the same no matter what.

*PCV airflow is not monitored by ECU either. It can only read/see manifold pressure & vacuum (if its an N18 it can see oil pressure too). If you have a PCV issue (leak or blockage) the manifold pressure and vacuum pressures are affected..this is what triggers CEL condition for PCV.
 
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