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Where to find a list of N14/N18 potential issues?

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Old Jul 9, 2018 | 12:46 PM
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Where to find a list of N14/N18 potential issues?

I'm trying to sort out why r56 engines (particularly the n14) fail, and if anything can be done to prevent that. I've been reading about the common issues, can anyone point to some sources that summarize all the common failures & fixes in one location?

I'd like to answer
-will the N14 spontaneously fail regardless of what you do, or can it be as reliable as the N18 provided preventative maintenance is done & oil levels are closely monitored
-which issues result in a serious >$1,000 repair (engine/transmission/turbo failure)

I'm not 100% clear about which failures are responsible for the N14's reputation as 'junk' compared to the N18. Having a $2,000+ spontaneous engine failure would be a bummer in a $4-6,000 car -especially if you had just done a timing chain/tensioner/tune up to prevent that.



These are the common r56 issues I've read about:
-timing chain & tensioner recalls
-HPFP
*vacuum pump failure? spontaneously seizes the cam & destroys the engine. or low oil level leads to oil starvation & seizing.
-Cold start issues
-thermostat housing
-carbon buildup (worse on the N14)
-turbo oil feed line leaking oil
-valve cover (clogged PCV) replacements
-sunroof issues opening when warm
-hood scoop melting from turbo heat

-3rd cylinder piston failure
 

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Old Jul 9, 2018 | 01:17 PM
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It's a french engine, reason enough to avoid it.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2018 | 08:23 AM
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You note the big ones, but it didn't dissuade me from picking up a 2008 MCS for a price that would make you laugh a few months ago. I sorted it, new vacuum pump, valve cover, vacuum lines, HPFP covered by warranty, intake manifold gaskets, PCV hose, spark plugs, new filters and oil. Parts are cheap, and it's an easy car to work on in my opinion. Now I'm off to do a few driver events with it this summer and fall. If it dies, I really don't care. Short of a sport bike that may kill you, I am had pressed to find a vehicle that is this much fun to drive for such a small price.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2018 | 07:50 AM
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Sounds like I'm in the same place you were in, congrats on the find. <$4,000? I've been seeing some tempting ads in the $3,700-4,500 range. Was the vacuum pump preventative maintenance for you? I saw someone had deleted theirs & used an independent pump, that's one way to solve one of the fatal failures (and source of noise complaints). I hope the fun:money ratio stays on the good side for many years to come.


The 3rd cylinder/piston failures are another topic that comes & goes.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2018 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MiniTime?
Sounds like I'm in the same place you were in, congrats on the find. <$4,000? I've been seeing some tempting ads in the $3,700-4,500 range. Was the vacuum pump preventative maintenance for you? I saw someone had deleted theirs & used an independent pump, that's one way to solve one of the fatal failures (and source of noise complaints). I hope the fun:money ratio stays on the good side for many years to come.


The 3rd cylinder/piston failures are another topic that comes & goes.
I certainly wouldn't pay more than $4k for a N14 MCS, they have too many problems. But if you are good with a wrench, most are easy to fix. I replaced the vacuum pump because I had an oil leak underneath it and was also chasing a vacuum leak. The part is cheap and, again, easy to replace. Turned out my vacuum hoses were bloated all over and weren't even connected to the reservoir. If one of my cylinders fail, I would probably just donate the car!
 
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Old Jul 15, 2018 | 02:44 PM
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user ignorance
poor/improper maintenance
bad OEM service recommendations for oil interval

**Those I think are in the top 5. For some reason its become socially acceptable to want to change your oil 7-10k miles on a high performance, direct injection turbo that makes more than 100hp per liter. Its really a sad world we live in.

82,3xx miles - N14 JCW
 
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Old Jul 15, 2018 | 10:37 PM
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The Gen2 FAQ has a pretty good summary of N14 issues.
 
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