Bad Control Arm Bushings??
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Bad Control Arm Bushings??
Had alignment done at dealer after switching out the tie rods. They told me my control arm bushings on both sides were completely shot and needed replacement. They quoted me about 800 and said they would throw in another alignment for free after replacing the bushings. (Do you even need to adjust the alignment after replacing control arm bushings??) I declined.
I jacked up the car at home and inspected the bushings. I honestly don't know how they are supposed to look, but the rubber looks ok to me. You can even see the "Mini" insignia still present on the rubber. These are pics from the front and back of the driver bushing. Am I missing something? Do these bushings look shot?
I jacked up the car at home and inspected the bushings. I honestly don't know how they are supposed to look, but the rubber looks ok to me. You can even see the "Mini" insignia still present on the rubber. These are pics from the front and back of the driver bushing. Am I missing something? Do these bushings look shot?
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Here's a pic of the new OEM Mini bushings. They don't look that different to me, but again, I don't know how it is supposed to look on the car.
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If you look closely at the bushings, you can see that they are not centered in the housing like the new ones are. Rubber does get “tired” as it ages, and can no longer perform its duties of keeping the control arm located in the right spot.
I don’t think I would pay $800 for replacing them, but it does look like your car would benefit from replacement. Take some time at home, get more familiar with your car, and change them out yourself. Get some poly replacement, too.
I don’t think I would pay $800 for replacing them, but it does look like your car would benefit from replacement. Take some time at home, get more familiar with your car, and change them out yourself. Get some poly replacement, too.
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Best way to tell is to look at the odometer.
If it says more than 40K, they're probably shot.
Actually, I usually kick the front of the tire and see how much it moves
back and forth (should be minimal, there are some videos that demonstrate
this if you search), or try to rock the tire/wheel fore and aft while feeling
the play at the back rod of the control arm where it comes out of the bushing.
Can also jack it up and use a pry bar to see how much it moves around.
Never ever replace with OEM bushings unless you want to do it again in
another few years.
The Powerflex control arm bushings last virtually forever and locate the wheel better,
and do not cause a noticeable increase in NVH (noise/vibration/harshness)
compared to stock.
If it says more than 40K, they're probably shot.
Actually, I usually kick the front of the tire and see how much it moves
back and forth (should be minimal, there are some videos that demonstrate
this if you search), or try to rock the tire/wheel fore and aft while feeling
the play at the back rod of the control arm where it comes out of the bushing.
Can also jack it up and use a pry bar to see how much it moves around.
Never ever replace with OEM bushings unless you want to do it again in
another few years.
The Powerflex control arm bushings last virtually forever and locate the wheel better,
and do not cause a noticeable increase in NVH (noise/vibration/harshness)
compared to stock.
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Agree with everything Cristo said above. At this point, if you own a gen 1 car and they are the original bushings, it is a very high probability that they are shot. As he said, kick each tire from the front edge.....if the wheel “wobbles” or moves any amount, the bushings are toast.....as demonstrated here....
I’ve replaced bushings with power flex on two different cars now using two different methods....first car I pulled the control arms, cut the bushings out, and pressed the new in myself. On my current car, I dropped the subframe and installed pre-pressed bushings in new brackets. The job is doable but kinda sucks no matter which way you do it......unless you just love to wrench, pay someone to do the work. $800 sounds a bit steep.....shop around. An independent shop would probably be more in the neighborhood of $500 (not sure if they would charge for alignment on top of that). If you enjoy working on your own cars, do them yourself for around $100 total.....not necessarily difficult, just a bit time consuming with a bit of prying involved.
I’ve replaced bushings with power flex on two different cars now using two different methods....first car I pulled the control arms, cut the bushings out, and pressed the new in myself. On my current car, I dropped the subframe and installed pre-pressed bushings in new brackets. The job is doable but kinda sucks no matter which way you do it......unless you just love to wrench, pay someone to do the work. $800 sounds a bit steep.....shop around. An independent shop would probably be more in the neighborhood of $500 (not sure if they would charge for alignment on top of that). If you enjoy working on your own cars, do them yourself for around $100 total.....not necessarily difficult, just a bit time consuming with a bit of prying involved.
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thanks for the reply and gif. Was that filmed with the control arm separated from the inner and outer ball joints?
Last edited by mdurando; 06-01-2018 at 09:50 PM. Reason: Typo
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Nope, that was fully assembled on jack stands. I'm sitting under the car just shaking the wheel back and forth. The rubber connecting the inner/outer races of the bushing were complete mush.
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Yes with the rubber not centered they are worn out. Pretty much any MINI with 40k+ miles and stock bushings is worn out. the videos shows the bushings move or kicking the tires are good ways to show them worn out.
But when you do replace make sure you do replace them with the powerflex bushings as they will never wear out again. Plus will feel like the car is brand new.
https://www.waymotorworks.com/powerf...shing-kit.html
But when you do replace make sure you do replace them with the powerflex bushings as they will never wear out again. Plus will feel like the car is brand new.
https://www.waymotorworks.com/powerf...shing-kit.html
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https://www.waymotorworks.com/powerf...ckets-new.html
We also offer a core service that we press new powerflex bushings into used brackets ship them to you and let you send your used brackets back for core return.
https://www.waymotorworks.com/powerf...shing-kit.html
We do sell the stock bushings in brackets, but they cost more and won't last so we never recommend them. The powerflex never wear out again.
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