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What would cause engine to shut off while driving?

Old Jun 6, 2019 | 02:35 AM
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I had the same problem for a couple of months where it had intermittently engine die off during drive. After wait for a couple of mins 5-20 mins it will starts and works for a few weeks to months.

My symptoms:
1. there isn't any error code
2. No indicator or warming light

The problem is with the JBE where one of the relay (K96) not working and cause the low pressure fuel pump not working. When the low pressure fuel pump not supplying the High Pressure fuel pump the engine will stop right away even when you are cruising.
Unfortunately the relay (K96) not replaceable item as it is part of the JBE board. therefore i have no choice but to get used or new part. I managed to get a new JBE and installed then get it coded with NCS and winKFP.

It's all working nicely now.


My advise when you have intermittent engine stalled please check :
1. power supply to low pressure fuel pump
2. change you fuel filter
3. check HPFP pressure

Hope this help those that had similar problem.
 

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Old Jul 17, 2019 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by edwkmho
I had the same problem for a couple of months where it had intermittently engine die off during drive. After wait for a couple of mins 5-20 mins it will starts and works for a few weeks to months.

My symptoms:
1. there isn't any error code
2. No indicator or warming light

The problem is with the JBE where one of the relay (K96) not working and cause the low pressure fuel pump not working. When the low pressure fuel pump not supplying the High Pressure fuel pump the engine will stop right away even when you are cruising.
Unfortunately the relay (K96) not replaceable item as it is part of the JBE board. therefore i have no choice but to get used or new part. I managed to get a new JBE and installed then get it coded with NCS and winKFP.

It's all working nicely now.


My advise when you have intermittent engine stalled please check :
1. power supply to low pressure fuel pump
2. change you fuel filter
3. check HPFP pressure

Hope this help those that had similar problem.
Is this what you're referring to as the JBE: https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...h/61353457582/
 
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Old Jul 18, 2019 | 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Lex2008
Is this what you're referring to as the JBE: https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...h/61353457582/
Yes, that is absolutely correct part. I have ordered the same part no too.

But make sure you have ECS Tuning check with your VIN.

Sorry for the delay in responding to you, was out of the country for a few days.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2019 | 12:40 PM
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Thanks for the response edwkmho. My 2008 with new fuel pump, engine etc etc etc and an a HPFP with 50k miles on it suddenly shut off for the first time in parking lot at low speeds. Would not start until second try. I have so many new parts in this car I suspect this relay could be bad after 11 years and 155,000 miles.

In true Mini fashion, they make this 20 times as expensive as it needs to be, as is the case for the EGR valve built into the valve cover.

A fuel pump relay for any other car is $20, except Mini, where its $500.

Thanks for this info edwkmho.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2019 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Lex2008
Thanks for the response edwkmho. My 2008 with new fuel pump, engine etc etc etc and an a HPFP with 50k miles on it suddenly shut off for the first time in parking lot at low speeds. Would not start until second try. I have so many new parts in this car I suspect this relay could be bad after 11 years and 155,000 miles.

In true Mini fashion, they make this 20 times as expensive as it needs to be, as is the case for the EGR valve built into the valve cover.

A fuel pump relay for any other car is $20, except Mini, where its $500.

Thanks for this info edwkmho.

Totally agreed that BMW/Mini had made their vehicle much more expensive to maintain.

Just imagine in yours and my case of the JBE replacement due to just a single relay failure. I still keep my old JBE hoping to find the faulty relay someday.

Remember to code in your new JBE. Let me know if you need help with coding.

Hope every work out for you with the new JBE.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2019 | 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by edwkmho
Totally agreed that BMW/Mini had made their vehicle much more expensive to maintain.

Just imagine in yours and my case of the JBE replacement due to just a single relay failure. I still keep my old JBE hoping to find the faulty relay someday.

Remember to code in your new JBE. Let me know if you need help with coding.

Hope every work out for you with the new JBE.
Thanks edwkmho. Can I use Autoengenuity software to code it?
 
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Old Jul 21, 2019 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Lex2008
Thanks edwkmho. Can I use Autoengenuity software to code it?
Sorry i am not familiar with Autoengenuity software.

What i used was INPA + winkfp with USB K+DCAN cable to code the new JBE.

Do let me know if you need the steps to perform the coding.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2019 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by edwkmho
Sorry i am not familiar with Autoengenuity software.

What i used was INPA + winkfp with USB K+DCAN cable to code the new JBE.

Do let me know if you need the steps to perform the coding.

ummmm....I dont know what any of that is! hahaha
 
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Old Jul 21, 2019 | 08:34 AM
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INPA and winKFP are BMW specific tools for coding.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2019 | 08:52 AM
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Expensive?

I dont think my Autoenginuity with BMW extension can code a new part. For example it couldnt progam a new steering wheel clock/spring unit. It has some actuation functions but its not 100% comprehensive.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2019 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Lex2008
Expensive?

I dont think my Autoenginuity with BMW extension can code a new part. For example it couldnt progam a new steering wheel clock/spring unit. It has some actuation functions but its not 100% comprehensive.
Not expensive at all, but need time to install and configure the softwares. The software can download from BimmerGeeks - https://www.bimmergeeks.net/downloads

Just need to get the USB K+DCAN cable from BimmerGeeks or ebay.

Sorry for late responding.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2022 | 09:22 AM
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Hey, did you eventually figure out what was the cause?
It just happened to me a couple of days ago.
Thank you !
 
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