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Old Sep 3, 2017 | 08:52 AM
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So I recently had a knock censor code affecting engine performance. We replaced the knock censor, serviced the super charger, replaced the serpentine belt and water pump. Once everything was put back together I was throwing code P1498. We found the intercooler boots were cracked. Replaced those and the engine seems to be running great. My next stop was the gas station to top off the tank as the car had been sitting for 3 weeks, wanted to get some fresh gas in. Filled her up and now the starter won't fire... Push started it with no issue.

What are the chances that the starter just gave out?
 
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Old Sep 3, 2017 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by NBradley1981
So I recently had a knock censor code affecting engine performance. We replaced the knock censor, serviced the super charger, replaced the serpentine belt and water pump. Once everything was put back together I was throwing code P1498. We found the intercooler boots were cracked. Replaced those and the engine seems to be running great. My next stop was the gas station to top off the tank as the car had been sitting for 3 weeks, wanted to get some fresh gas in. Filled her up and now the starter won't fire... Push started it with no issue.

What are the chances that the starter just gave out?
The chance of starter gives out is directly proportional to the cumulated cranking time of the starter. The higher mileage the car, the more worn out is the starter tends to be. The more short trips, the starter is more worn than a car that has mostly long trips. Most starters fail because the DC motor's carbon brushes and/or commutator worn out. In highschool my friends thought I am a genius when I show them by giving a calibrated blow to the starter with a peen hammer I could coerce the failed starter to do one more crank. The truth is, if you just read up on how a starter work, it is very simple.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2017 | 09:55 AM
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No clicks or any type of sound?
 
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Old Sep 3, 2017 | 10:04 AM
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No clicks or any type of sound?
Nope. Nothing...
 
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Old Sep 3, 2017 | 10:06 AM
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OK, so next I would check the battery voltage, the ground strap by the passenger side motor mount and then the starter it self.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2017 | 10:29 AM
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Moving this to the Stock Problems/Issues area.

In the picture below you can see a ground strap that is connected to the engine bracket that sits down over the passenger side motor mount. If this is not tight, you can have starter issues. If the yellow oil dip stick is at the center of the clock dial, then the ground strap is at about 10:00.

 
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Old Sep 3, 2017 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by r53coop
Moving this to the Stock Problems/Issues area.

In the picture below you can see a ground strap that is connected to the engine bracket that sits down over the passenger side motor mount. If this is not tight, you can have starter issues. If the yellow oil dip stick is at the center of the clock dial, then the ground strap is at about 10:00.

Boom! The top bolt of the ground strap was a little loose. Tightened it up, fired right up. Loosened it back up to make sure that was the problem, no click again. Thanks for the quick response and precise diagnosis!
 

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Old Sep 3, 2017 | 01:00 PM
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Wish I was this good at picking lottery numbers . . . . .
 
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Old Sep 4, 2017 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by NBradley1981
Boom! The top bolt of the ground strap was a little loose. Tightened it up, fired right up. Loosened it back up to make sure that was the problem, no click again. Thanks for the quick response and precise diagnosis!
Checked through this thread and was going to tell you to double check the ground strap even though it's connected. Mine was loose and I just took for granted my buddy tightened it fully. Needless to say, I thought it was a key issue and took it to the dealer. $160 for them to tighten the bloody ground. I didn't even get a new ground strap out of it! Glad you're all good now
 
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