R56 Piston Rings replacement
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R56 Piston Rings replacement
I'm in the process of replacing the rings in my Gen2 N12 R56 2007 mini cooper (non-turbo). Rings P# 11-25-566-479-BOE
My problem is that I'm not able to get the oil ring (or oil scraper ring) to compress down enough for the piston to drop into the cylinder. I've had replacement rings sent because they appear to be oversized at 3 1/8th inch versus the 3 inch diameter of the cylinder.
When I put the oil ring into the cylinder, just like you do the regular ring to check the gap, it will not fit "level" or it has to sit offset within the cylinder or literally overlapped.
Is the problem with me or the oil ring? I'm using the ratcheting tool with the 2 5/8" to 3 1/8" sized compression attachment.
Thank you for your time!
Mike
My problem is that I'm not able to get the oil ring (or oil scraper ring) to compress down enough for the piston to drop into the cylinder. I've had replacement rings sent because they appear to be oversized at 3 1/8th inch versus the 3 inch diameter of the cylinder.
When I put the oil ring into the cylinder, just like you do the regular ring to check the gap, it will not fit "level" or it has to sit offset within the cylinder or literally overlapped.
Is the problem with me or the oil ring? I'm using the ratcheting tool with the 2 5/8" to 3 1/8" sized compression attachment.
Thank you for your time!
Mike
#2
The problem is with the way you try to insert the piston into the block. I check realoem and this is the correct part number.
The rings are slightly bigger so when they expand they provide a tighter seal.
When i did mine, it was frustration and time consuming...there is no easy way to do it other than to be patient and make sure the ring compressor is actually compressing all the way around.
im pretty sure you watched YT. just watch again and take your time.
The rings are slightly bigger so when they expand they provide a tighter seal.
When i did mine, it was frustration and time consuming...there is no easy way to do it other than to be patient and make sure the ring compressor is actually compressing all the way around.
im pretty sure you watched YT. just watch again and take your time.
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I'm in the process of replacing the rings in my Gen2 N12 R56 2007 mini cooper (non-turbo). Rings P# 11-25-566-479-BOE
My problem is that I'm not able to get the oil ring (or oil scraper ring) to compress down enough for the piston to drop into the cylinder. I've had replacement rings sent because they appear to be oversized at 3 1/8th inch versus the 3 inch diameter of the cylinder.
When I put the oil ring into the cylinder, just like you do the regular ring to check the gap, it will not fit "level" or it has to sit offset within the cylinder or literally overlapped. When I rebuilt my engine with aftermarket pistons, rings, etc., there were instructions about how to create the proper ring-gap. All rings in the set were "oversized" and needed to be gapped. Now, this was aftermarket and not OEM, but I expect you have the same issue --- rings need to be gapped. If you're not sure how to do this, let me know and I'll look for the instructions --- I usually save everything. Another consideration --- my oil rings are a 3-piece set for each piston --- two very thin and flat pieces plus one "ribbed" piece to fit between the flat ones. Really tuff to get the set installed on a piston without them overlapping one another.
Is the problem with me or the oil ring? I'm using the ratcheting tool with the 2 5/8" to 3 1/8" sized compression attachment.
Thank you for your time!
Mike
My problem is that I'm not able to get the oil ring (or oil scraper ring) to compress down enough for the piston to drop into the cylinder. I've had replacement rings sent because they appear to be oversized at 3 1/8th inch versus the 3 inch diameter of the cylinder.
When I put the oil ring into the cylinder, just like you do the regular ring to check the gap, it will not fit "level" or it has to sit offset within the cylinder or literally overlapped. When I rebuilt my engine with aftermarket pistons, rings, etc., there were instructions about how to create the proper ring-gap. All rings in the set were "oversized" and needed to be gapped. Now, this was aftermarket and not OEM, but I expect you have the same issue --- rings need to be gapped. If you're not sure how to do this, let me know and I'll look for the instructions --- I usually save everything. Another consideration --- my oil rings are a 3-piece set for each piston --- two very thin and flat pieces plus one "ribbed" piece to fit between the flat ones. Really tuff to get the set installed on a piston without them overlapping one another.
Is the problem with me or the oil ring? I'm using the ratcheting tool with the 2 5/8" to 3 1/8" sized compression attachment.
Thank you for your time!
Mike
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I was finally able to get the piston to drop into place. Boy what a pain in the butt. Since I could not get the ring compressor to fully collapse the oil ring I had to install in manually. I had to tilt the piston a bit to get one side to hold while manually pushing the oil ring into position. Once the oil ring was completely pushed into the piston and cylinder I was able to use the ring compressor to finish compressing the top two rings and the piston dropped right into place.
Not sure if this will help anyone but I sure would like to know what ring compressor others had used and if they had the same issues that I had with the oil ring.
btw, I did check out the ring grooves and made sure they were clean before this last try.
Thanks to all who replied, greatly appreciated.
Not sure if this will help anyone but I sure would like to know what ring compressor others had used and if they had the same issues that I had with the oil ring.
btw, I did check out the ring grooves and made sure they were clean before this last try.
Thanks to all who replied, greatly appreciated.
#6
Thanks for posting your outcome @michael2007mini. I'm currently in exactly the same situation and just walked away from it to clear my head. Can you confirm everything worked out OK for you? Did you only replace one piston or did you have the same issue with all of them? I'm on my first and it's pissing me off. Youtube makes it look oh so simple but the oil ring keeps popping out on me. It's my first time doing this, but it looks so much simpler than what I'm currently experiencing....
I was finally able to get the piston to drop into place. Boy what a pain in the butt. Since I could not get the ring compressor to fully collapse the oil ring I had to install in manually. I had to tilt the piston a bit to get one side to hold while manually pushing the oil ring into position. Once the oil ring was completely pushed into the piston and cylinder I was able to use the ring compressor to finish compressing the top two rings and the piston dropped right into place.
Not sure if this will help anyone but I sure would like to know what ring compressor others had used and if they had the same issues that I had with the oil ring.
btw, I did check out the ring grooves and made sure they were clean before this last try.
Thanks to all who replied, greatly appreciated.
Not sure if this will help anyone but I sure would like to know what ring compressor others had used and if they had the same issues that I had with the oil ring.
btw, I did check out the ring grooves and made sure they were clean before this last try.
Thanks to all who replied, greatly appreciated.
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Thanks for posting your outcome @michael2007mini. I'm currently in exactly the same situation and just walked away from it to clear my head. Can you confirm everything worked out OK for you? Did you only replace one piston or did you have the same issue with all of them? I'm on my first and it's pissing me off. Youtube makes it look oh so simple but the oil ring keeps popping out on me. It's my first time doing this, but it looks so much simpler than what I'm currently experiencing....
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