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Throwout Bearing grinding AGAIN!!

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Old Feb 12, 2017 | 09:49 AM
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Throwout Bearing grinding AGAIN!!

hi guys, hope everyone is having a good sunday.

I replaced my clutch because of a bad release/throwout bearing at 68000km aprox 45k miles. I used an OS Gicken Kit stage one. Solid fly wheel etc. (Blue kit) about 30k miles the bearing is grinding again. The first one (stock) exploded and it was hard to change gears.

My question is why does this keep happening to me? How to avoid it? Anyone else have multiple bearing go on them? If i have to replace this soon what should i do to avoid this in the near future again? :(

not happy, not the end of the world but a bit sad of having to go through this for a second time after soending extra money for a good kit. (3 years ago)

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Old Feb 12, 2017 | 10:32 AM
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First thing I'd do is have you drive me around a bit so I could watch your clutch handling habits. A lot of clutch problems are self inflicted. Some basic rules:
Keep you foot AWAY from the pedal unless actually shifting gears.
At a traffic stop take it out of gear and get off the clutch.
When shifting gears mash the pedal CLEAR to the floor EVERY TIME.
That doesn't fix your current dilemma but it may forestall any future issues.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2017 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Fly'n Brick
First thing I'd do is have you drive me around a bit so I could watch your clutch handling habits. A lot of clutch problems are self inflicted. Some basic rules:
Keep you foot AWAY from the pedal unless actually shifting gears.
At a traffic stop take it out of gear and get off the clutch.
When shifting gears mash the pedal CLEAR to the floor EVERY TIME.
That doesn't fix your current dilemma but it may forestall any future issues.
these are all good points and I completely agree but just to give a bit of background, I've driven manual transmissions for 25 years now. This does not mean im perfect but this is the first car so far that I've had issues with.

I have a 2006 jcw if that helps.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2017 | 06:56 PM
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http://www.detroittuned.com/mini-throwout-bearing-guide-tube/


i don't remember replacing the guide tube. Is it something that can affect the life of the bearing. If so how does it impact the throwout bearing if the guide tube is worn out. And how does the guide tube wear out?

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Old Feb 12, 2017 | 08:43 PM
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I just read the link and I'd give them a lot of cred on that guide tube...but not on their grammar.
One of my hot buttons - their there they're!
I just took a shot in the dark on the usage issue. It is forevermore amazing about how many people don't understand the relationship between the pedal and clutch/TO bearing wear.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2017 | 09:16 AM
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Hey bilal, sorry to hear of your troubles. How is the noise affected by your depressing the clutch pedal, in neutral? Does the noise change in intensity while moving, depending on gear/rpm? Are there any inputs you can give to change that noise at all? Is it hard to put into first gear?

The reason I'm asking is my MINI has a grinding/whirring transmission too, but the noise appears only when the clutch pedal is released (clutch is engaged). It's loudest/whirriest in 4th and 6th gear, so I'm thinking it's an internal transmission bearing. Apparently, if you know how to remove the transmission, the few extra steps for a bearing replacement aren't too bad.

As far as other tendencies to avoid, I've heard that pushing the gear level towards 1st while slowing for a quick stop, even with the clutch fully depressed, can be bad. Someone also once told me not to put my hand on the shifter unless I'm shifting. I guess any force on the gear level can theoretically bring something in the trans slightly out of alignment?
 
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