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Old Nov 15, 2013 | 03:20 AM
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Transmition problems

Y 2009 clubman 69000 miles today at a stop light steep on the gas and nothing car is running. The light on my odometer go out. I shut it off starts right up and but it in drive everything is fine again. Any info on this
 
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Old Nov 15, 2013 | 05:54 AM
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doesn't sound like a transmission to me. So you step on the gas and NOTHING happens other than some dash lights go out? Sounds like an electrical problem associated to the drive by wire system.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2013 | 06:23 AM
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Pull a code from the odb2.....
From the sound of it, you need to get it diagnosed...
Almost certainly not a transmission issue.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2013 | 12:32 PM
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My friend said it could be a acceleration moduel
 
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Old Nov 15, 2013 | 01:47 PM
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It sounds like you need a decent mechanic. It doesn't sound like your friend knows much about cars, so I would be hesitant to trust him/her enough to put money on it.

Are there any codes from the engine management system?

If you were stopped at a light and all of the dashboard lights and everything went off when you stepped on the throttle, I'm thinking there is an electrical problem. Where exactly, I don't know. Could be a connection at the battery, or a ground, or the ignition switch, or a number of other places. But it sounds like a bad connection of some sort.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2013 | 02:38 PM
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You may find an issue in the system that adjusts the camshaft position, and you may find that the idle speed is simply set too low. You may also find that your gas cap is not on tightly. I'd look at the simple stuff first.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2013 | 05:32 AM
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Pull the code from where ? how do I do this.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2013 | 12:31 PM
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If the term odb2 reader is new to you, as is automotive troubling shooting, you may wish to save time and frustration, and possibly even $$ by getting the car looked at by a pro....or somebody who has dealt with car repair a few times....
I caution you, a error code is only the starting point to finding an problem...it doest not postivily identity a specific part that is bad....just changing parts based on codes can be a expensive and frustrating path....
 
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Old Nov 16, 2013 | 02:03 PM
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I'm dropping it off to get worked on this Monday . Hopefully it's not a big deal. I bought this mini in February and so far the mini experience is not a good one.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2013 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Herleman
You may find an issue in the system that adjusts the camshaft position, and you may find that the idle speed is simply set too low. You may also find that your gas cap is not on tightly. I'd look at the simple stuff first.
I have never, in any level of automobile, seen an emissions code(such as an evap code from a loose gas cap), ever, ever, ever cause a drive-ability issue like this. Nor would a low idle cause the car to not move while running. It might cause the car to stall while sitting or hesitate for a brief second upon acceleration, but nothing like the OP described. Yes, look at the simple things first.... but look at the simple things that actually have to do with the issues at hand. Electrical connections would be my first plan of attack, not a ****ing gas cap.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2013 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by InjectedGT
I have never, in any level of automobile, seen an emissions code(such as an evap code from a loose gas cap), ever, ever, ever cause a drive-ability issue like this. Nor would a low idle cause the car to not move while running. It might cause the car to stall while sitting or hesitate for a brief second upon acceleration, but nothing like the OP described. Yes, look at the simple things first.... but look at the simple things that actually have to do with the issues at hand. Electrical connections would be my first plan of attack, not a ****ing gas cap.
My car had a problem exactly as described by the OP. It acted exactly like a transmission problem. Turned out to be a camshaft sensor that was actually allowing the motor to shut down momentarily under certain conditions (on Mine it was on making a right hand turn that was slightly down hill which caused a drop in engine RPM and subsequently caused the motor to momentarily stall. The recommended fix, from Mini, was to bump the idle speed up and replace the cam position sensor.

Similarly, having any issue in the fuel system can cause the motor to momentarily run a bit rich, then the ECU compensates by changing the mixture, and it goes lean and stumbles. That, in turn, causes the transmission to hunt for the proper gear.

Your attitude is noted. You are apparently lacking in experience with such issues. Fortunately, my Mini shop was not and diagnosed both issues correctly and fixed both immediately.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2013 | 05:06 PM
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I'm not lacking in hesitation, stumbling, or loss of power issues at all, actually. An emissions code such as what a loose gas cap causes will not cause these issues. He steps on his fly by wire throttle button, nothing happens at all, lights in the dash act up, restarting the car solves the issue for now until it happens again. How on earth would you call that a fuel issue? It's 100% obvious an electrical issue. Dash lights go out when he steps on the gas and nothing happens.... it doesn't stumble, hesitate, or fight for acceleration, it flat out does NOTHING except fault the gauges. You go replace his gas cap and bump his idle speed up on your dime if you want, but I would put money on him still having this issue.

On top of that, the cam position sensor or any associated components fixed your problem. Bumping up the idle, if the idle is where it should be, is never at all, in any way, a solution. THAT sounds like a band aid to something like carbon build up, a bad sensor, or maybe a fuel/air issue. Forcing the car to stay running by giving it a higher idle isn't a fix. Sorry.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Herleman
My car had a problem exactly as described by the OP. It acted exactly like a transmission problem. Turned out to be a camshaft sensor that was actually allowing the motor to shut down momentarily under certain conditions (on Mine it was on making a right hand turn that was slightly down hill which caused a drop in engine RPM and subsequently caused the motor to momentarily stall. The recommended fix, from Mini, was to bump the idle speed up and replace the cam position sensor.

Similarly, having any issue in the fuel system can cause the motor to momentarily run a bit rich, then the ECU compensates by changing the mixture, and it goes lean and stumbles. That, in turn, causes the transmission to hunt for the proper gear.

Your attitude is noted. You are apparently lacking in experience with such issues. Fortunately, my Mini shop was not and diagnosed both issues correctly and fixed both immediately.
I'm having the same problem. I only replaced one sensor.. Did you replace both?
 
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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 11:49 AM
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I replaced only one.
 
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