rattling noise from the back
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rattling noise from the back
There was a discussion on here about this but I can't seem to find it. Do any of you have this rattling/clunking noise from the back (2009 base cooper ~25K miles). I can't tell if it is coming from the inside or the outside of the car. It isn't a loud noise. But it is definitely audible without trying to hear for it. For me, it happens when I go over small bumps at low speeds. The noise may also be there at high speeds but I can't tell maybe because of the road noise. One of the service bulletins talked about this kind of noise coming from loose latch for the backseat. I checked this and that wasn't the case for me. I am going to find someone who knows how to drive a stick have have him drive it while I sit in the back to see if I can pin down the noise, but in the meantime, has anyone dealt with this before?
#2
May be a silly question but have you checked to see is you license plate screwed down tight? They can rattle like a kid's toy, that's experience talking. A less silly question: You would actually let someone else drive your MINI???? NOBODY cares about your MINI the way you do. You drive and make them listen.
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I do have only the 2 top screws holding the license plate so that's worth a check. But I don't think the sound I heard would be from that. Could there be something in the wheel well, any of the suspension parts that are loose? Not that I would know any of that stuff. I may just have to take it to an expert to figure this out.
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A quick pdate on the noise. For me it is the end links.
I've been thinking about ugrading the rear sway bar. I'm thinking this is a good time to do it while addressing the noise. I looked at few of them and it doesn't look like the end links typically come with the bar. Is that correct.
Is there a package deal out there that would include the end links?
I've been thinking about ugrading the rear sway bar. I'm thinking this is a good time to do it while addressing the noise. I looked at few of them and it doesn't look like the end links typically come with the bar. Is that correct.
Is there a package deal out there that would include the end links?
#11
The end link don't come with the bar , they are separate.
http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/33506772789/
I really like the H&R rear sway bar. Both are adjustable in the 19mm version & 22mm version.
2008 R56 Base Cooper
19mm Rear sway Bar
http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/ES1304051/
22 mm Rear sway Bar
http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/ES2581649/
Hope that helps.
Thanks
http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/33506772789/
I really like the H&R rear sway bar. Both are adjustable in the 19mm version & 22mm version.
2008 R56 Base Cooper
19mm Rear sway Bar
http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/ES1304051/
22 mm Rear sway Bar
http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/ES2581649/
Hope that helps.
Thanks
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They are very easy to replace. All you need to do is get BOTH rear wheels off the ground at once. Remove them and go at it.
The torque is 41 ft/lbs.
The only way I could find to be able to read a torque value when tightening was to forgo using the allen head in the bolt and use a thin wrench on the flat spots on the linkage near the rubber while tighening the nut. Those flat spots end up being behind the sway bar. If I used the allen, I couldn't use my torque wrench.
The links provided above were informative and one of the selections has a GREAT price. You can't tell everything from the pictures provided, but the lowest price offering doesn't seem to offer those "flat spots", so I don't think a standard socket torque wrench could be used. You'd have to just get it good and tight. That should be good enough.
The torque is 41 ft/lbs.
The only way I could find to be able to read a torque value when tightening was to forgo using the allen head in the bolt and use a thin wrench on the flat spots on the linkage near the rubber while tighening the nut. Those flat spots end up being behind the sway bar. If I used the allen, I couldn't use my torque wrench.
The links provided above were informative and one of the selections has a GREAT price. You can't tell everything from the pictures provided, but the lowest price offering doesn't seem to offer those "flat spots", so I don't think a standard socket torque wrench could be used. You'd have to just get it good and tight. That should be good enough.
#18
My '08 MINI is pretty rattle-free @ around 56000 miles.
I live in a rural area - bad roads are pretty common. I'm careful with my MINI too, but I don't baby it at all. Nothing better than doing a little back-road attack every once in a while. Mud, potholes, slush etc., my car just eats it up. I've owned sports cars in the past that felt like they would self-destruct on anything other than a billiard table smooth surface (I'm talking about you, Lotus). My MINI is not one of those.
Don't obsess over keeping it perfect forever. Go out and enjoy beating on it a bit every once in a while.
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I live in a rural area - bad roads are pretty common. I'm careful with my MINI too, but I don't baby it at all. Nothing better than doing a little back-road attack every once in a while. Mud, potholes, slush etc., my car just eats it up. I've owned sports cars in the past that felt like they would self-destruct on anything other than a billiard table smooth surface (I'm talking about you, Lotus). My MINI is not one of those.
Don't obsess over keeping it perfect forever. Go out and enjoy beating on it a bit every once in a while.
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Has anyone else experienced the rear hatch rattling due to it being loose? I took it to the dealer a few months ago and the service manager and I narrowed it down to the hatch not securing because the rubber nubs were completely compressed. After replacing the nubs the sound seemed to go away for a few weeks but came back. I've gone through two pairs of these rubber nubs and the hatch is still shaking whether I screw them all the way in, all the way out, or anywhere in between.
The rattling/shaking happens when I hit small bumps.
The rattling/shaking happens when I hit small bumps.
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Have not heard of the hatch rattle that could not be fixed with the rubber bumper adjustment.
The end link noise is difficult to actually see. Sometimes the noise happens even if you can not see or get any movement out of the end links manually.
Another noise from the rear are the sway bar bushings. Grab the sway bar and see if you can pull/push it easily when both rear wheel are off the ground or both on the ground if you can reach it. If so, the bushing are worn and can clunk pretty bad. Easy and cheap fix.
The end link noise is difficult to actually see. Sometimes the noise happens even if you can not see or get any movement out of the end links manually.
Another noise from the rear are the sway bar bushings. Grab the sway bar and see if you can pull/push it easily when both rear wheel are off the ground or both on the ground if you can reach it. If so, the bushing are worn and can clunk pretty bad. Easy and cheap fix.
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I had a noise (vibration buzz) coming from the backseat area. Going over rough pavement created a buzz of unknown origin, but generally from the backseat.
After a frustrating period of investigation (I examined EVERYTHING), I found the origin to be the rear seat seatbacks fit together so tightly, they were buzzing when jostled.
I stuffed a piece of foam rubber between the backs (near the top edges) where they touch and the noise is gone. Whew!
After a frustrating period of investigation (I examined EVERYTHING), I found the origin to be the rear seat seatbacks fit together so tightly, they were buzzing when jostled.
I stuffed a piece of foam rubber between the backs (near the top edges) where they touch and the noise is gone. Whew!
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Another area to check if you get the rattle is the rear parcel deck. If you hear a rattle and its located higher and not coming from the rear suspension, it could be the parcel deck bouncing around on the missing bump stop nub.
R56 MINI Rear Window Parcel Shelf Deck
http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/SiteSearch/51467151717/ES119957/
And the diagram #1
If you are missing the side stud its here, two per rear deck. #3
http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/SiteSearch/51467295501/
For the Rear nub that the deck sets up against when the trunk lid is closed.
There is two of them.
You can see on this R53 / R50 version rear trunk interior panel the rubber nubs at the top.
#3 Bump stop - Priced Each
http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/SiteSearch/07132756983/
Thanks
R56 MINI Rear Window Parcel Shelf Deck
http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/SiteSearch/51467151717/ES119957/
And the diagram #1
If you are missing the side stud its here, two per rear deck. #3
http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/SiteSearch/51467295501/
For the Rear nub that the deck sets up against when the trunk lid is closed.
There is two of them.
You can see on this R53 / R50 version rear trunk interior panel the rubber nubs at the top.
#3 Bump stop - Priced Each
http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/SiteSearch/07132756983/
Thanks
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Has anyone else experienced the rear hatch rattling due to it being loose? I took it to the dealer a few months ago and the service manager and I narrowed it down to the hatch not securing because the rubber nubs were completely compressed. After replacing the nubs the sound seemed to go away for a few weeks but came back. I've gone through two pairs of these rubber nubs and the hatch is still shaking whether I screw them all the way in, all the way out, or anywhere in between.
The rattling/shaking happens when I hit small bumps.
The rattling/shaking happens when I hit small bumps.