Ok I know that the new rotory engines that mazda makes a fairly small and put out a lot of power.. I've seen people take the old rx-7 rotorys and put them in all sort of cars even a delorian... Anyody think it would be possible to put one in the mini ? I owuld think they'd be able to drop it in.. it woudl be the ultimate sleeper and you could turbo or super charge it

 

Except every rotary installation I've seen has the rotary engine installed longitudanally (when are we getting spell check in here?)(north-south). No?

Not sure that it matters, but wouldn't that make an already complicated process of getting the drive train to mesh even more difficult?

Don't get me wrong. I love the Mazda rotaries. They're quite an engine. A staff member has an RX-8. It's a hoot. What I would rather see is a turbo rotary in a Miata, but this isn't a Miata forum.

 

Now THAT would be my Mini dream come true....and so smoooooooooth. No valves, timing chain, camshaft, etc. Mr. Wankel was a brilliant man. Being rear wheel drive and the Mini front wheel drive, it would be a lot of work. Mazda is not using this engine to their advantage in vehicles other than the RX8. Shame, shame

 

>>Now THAT would be my Mini dream come true....and so smoooooooooth. No valves, timing chain, camshaft, etc. Mr. Wankel was a brilliant man. Being rear wheel drive and the Mini front wheel drive, it would be a lot of work. Mazda is not using this engine to their advantage in vehicles other than the RX8. Shame, shame
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Dang DUDE, thats a hella engine it looks hella good.

 

chollo, I don't think it would be easy to turbo or supercharge a rotory, they're very delicate motors that need attention whenever even the most minute thing goes wrong.

speltz, I agree, but the general public isn't ready for such a delicate motor. With good cooling and oil they're more durable than a piston engine, but if you just pump a bad tank of gas it'll blow up, if you drive it a little too hard on a hot day with the A/C on it'll blow up, if your plugs get a little fouled and you get on it a little the engine will blow up and finally, they're fuel hungry motors. I love the RX-7 TT rotaries, but I wouldn't want to own one unless it was my 2nd or 3rd car.

This is a fun idea though, I'd love to see someone try it.

 

I know this is a mini site, but you gotta check this out...www.mazdarx8.co.uk/rotary/rotaryhow.asp?documentid=1331

 

"speltz, I agree, but the general public isn't ready for such a delicate motor. With good cooling and oil they're more durable than a piston engine, but if you just pump a bad tank of gas it'll blow up, if you drive it a little too hard on a hot day with the A/C on it'll blow up, if your plugs get a little fouled and you get on it a little the engine will blow up and finally, they're fuel hungry motors. I love the RX-7 TT rotaries, but I wouldn't want to own one unless it was my 2nd or 3rd car."



Wrong, wrong, wrong. Where did you get your Rotary info? Granted, the rotor seals wore prematurely on the earlier Wankel RX7 (fixed on the Renesis) and they burned oil, and yes they are not the best on fuel, but motors being delicate and blowing up?

 

>>"speltz, I agree, but the general public isn't ready for such a delicate motor. With good cooling and oil they're more durable than a piston engine, but if you just pump a bad tank of gas it'll blow up, if you drive it a little too hard on a hot day with the A/C on it'll blow up, if your plugs get a little fouled and you get on it a little the engine will blow up and finally, they're fuel hungry motors. I love the RX-7 TT rotaries, but I wouldn't want to own one unless it was my 2nd or 3rd car."
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>>Wrong, wrong, wrong. Where did you get your Rotary info? Granted, the rotor seals wore prematurely on the earlier Wankel RX7 (fixed on the Renesis) and they burned oil, and yes they are not the best on fuel, but motors being delicate and blowing up?
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They're very delicate, it only takes a couple pings to blow 1 up from detonation. My neighbor's RX-7 ate 3 motors IN ONE SUMMER because of this, he had to upgrade the whole cooling system so it could cope with the 100+ degree weather here with the A/C on. Like I said, if you keep them cool and run them on good oil they're more stout than a piston engine, but if you're careless or put the oil/plug change off 'til next weekend, you shouldn't own a rotary. Just my $.02.

I don't have much info on the new Renesis engine in the RX-8, but Mazda did offer major cashback because the performance wasn't as advertised.

 

>>Don't get me wrong. I love the Mazda rotaries. They're quite an engine. A staff member has an RX-8. It's a hoot. What I would rather see is a turbo rotary in a Miata, but this isn't a Miata forum

Like this...

"Built on the Miata platform, powered by the Renesis rotary, Mazda’s Cosmo 21 may get the green light for production next year. Volume will be limited, and the price will be somewhere near $50,000."

 

You guys are making me think back nearly 20 years. Going back to the college days. I drove a mazda rx2 with a 12a off a new rx7. Had it ported and bridged, holy 4 barrel, racingbeat exhaust and intake. Oh man, that was fun. I ran it with airplane fuel one night, next morning had no compression. I had to dump oil down the carburator to get it started, what a nightmare. Boy, I was stupid. My friends father had single engine airplanes so we had easy access to the fuel, growing up we used it on everything from go karts and motorcycles without any problems. Well, the oil down the carb trick did get the engine some compression to get it running but it made massive smoke clouds down our street. If the rx8 wasn't so ugly I would have consider buying one, maybe the new rx7. This is a mini forum right?
I love my mcs.

 

Forget the rotary...put this in the mini.

 

>>>>"speltz, I agree, but the general public isn't ready for such a delicate motor. With good cooling and oil they're more durable than a piston engine, but if you just pump a bad tank of gas it'll blow up, if you drive it a little too hard on a hot day with the A/C on it'll blow up, if your plugs get a little fouled and you get on it a little the engine will blow up and finally, they're fuel hungry motors. I love the RX-7 TT rotaries, but I wouldn't want to own one unless it was my 2nd or 3rd car."
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>>>>Wrong, wrong, wrong. Where did you get your Rotary info? Granted, the rotor seals wore prematurely on the earlier Wankel RX7 (fixed on the Renesis) and they burned oil, and yes they are not the best on fuel, but motors being delicate and blowing up?
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>>They're very delicate, it only takes a couple pings to blow 1 up from detonation. My neighbor's RX-7 ate 3 motors IN ONE SUMMER because of this, he had to upgrade the whole cooling system so it could cope with the 100+ degree weather here with the A/C on. Like I said, if you keep them cool and run them on good oil they're more stout than a piston engine, but if you're careless or put the oil/plug change off 'til next weekend, you shouldn't own a rotary. Just my $.02.
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>>I don't have much info on the new Renesis engine in the RX-8, but Mazda did offer major cashback because the performance wasn't as advertised.
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I used to drive a nasp rotary (2nd gen RX7), and the only reason I sold it was because the gas tank had a leak. I loved that car, the engine was damn strong. Even with the non turbo version, I could hit 140 in the car. I would love to own a RX7 TT. That is a thing of beauty. I like the rx8, but it does not compare to the RX7. I think that someone should take the new Rotary and install it into a RX7, then TT it. That would be amazing!!!!!

BAck to putting it into a mini. make the Mini RWD, and that would be a blast!

 

yes you can turbo a rotory tho they liek NA better, and rotories can be MORE Fuel effecient, and can be a LOT more reliable.. considerign they have like 3 moving parts as opposed to the regualr 4stroke piston which has over 22... the rx7 wankel had a lot of issues and burnign oil was one of them the renisi has had soem inital issues ( BUT SO HAS TheMINI ENGINE! hello Yo-Yo?) and only a couple of manufacturs have been working on a rotory for teh last 30 some odd years.. *** opposed the hundreds of engine manufacturs workign on improving the piston type.. put that kind of R & d into teh rotory and I think you have it perfectd in no time...,, btu my questionis woudl it be possible is it truly small enough.... In the conversion I saw for teh delorian the engine is in the back with the drive wheels.. that isn't much different than the engienr being in he front is it... Nto that I'd ever do it myself, but it it possible? any motor heads otu there know?