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Old May 7, 2011 | 11:54 AM
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2011 MCS sunroof is creaking.

Just wondering if anyone else has same problem. I hear a creaking or tick noise coming from rear sunroof when driving over anything but smooth roads. Its seems to be over my right shoulder toward rear. I believe it is from the rear sunroof. Venting didn't stop it, but i didn't open all the way and listen.
 
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Old May 7, 2011 | 03:41 PM
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There are a ton of posts about the infamous sunroof noises. I've noticed it now that the weather is getting warmer by me, and I've been driving with the sunroof open like all the time now. Even if I have it just tilted, it creaks and rattles. If I'm on smooth pavement, no problems, but once I hit a bump, you can hear it. Seems pretty common/normal. Don't know if the dealer has any solutions to the issue
 
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Old May 7, 2011 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Eddyboi77
There are a ton of posts about the infamous sunroof noises. I've noticed it now that the weather is getting warmer by me, and I've been driving with the sunroof open like all the time now. Even if I have it just tilted, it creaks and rattles. If I'm on smooth pavement, no problems, but once I hit a bump, you can hear it. Seems pretty common/normal. Don't know if the dealer has any solutions to the issue
Funny thing is, I had a 2005 MCS and never heard any noise from the sunroof, although others complained of rattles, now with the 2011, I have an issue. Too bad, I thought they would have corrected any issues by now
 
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Old May 7, 2011 | 05:03 PM
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Funny thing is, I had a 2005 MCS and never heard any noise from the sunroof, although others complained of rattles, now with the 2011, I have an issue. Too bad, I thought they would have corrected any issues by now
I think a lot of it may be the sheer weight of the front glass panel on the hinges that glide it back over the back panel. It's unnoticeable though if I have my music blaring...which I do 90% of the time I'm in the car
 
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Old May 10, 2011 | 12:41 PM
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There are some TORX adjustment screws (six per each piece of glass) on the inside frame of the sunroofs. You can play with these to eliminate the rattle.
 
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Old May 14, 2011 | 05:38 AM
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I thought I was hearing a similar rattle but it turned out to be one of the rear seatbelt buckles knocking against the side of the car.
 
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Old May 14, 2011 | 02:07 PM
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I have that noice in my car too... For me it wasn't the glass roof itself, but the plastic trim underneath it and the sliding sunshade.

On a sidenote, I noticed that my rear sunroof panel jumps open from the pressure when closing any of the car's doors. Anyone noticed that too?
 
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Old May 14, 2011 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by alexs3d2
I have that noice in my car too... For me it wasn't the glass roof itself, but the plastic trim underneath it and the sliding sunshade.

On a sidenote, I noticed that my rear sunroof panel jumps open from the pressure when closing any of the car's doors. Anyone noticed that too?
I noticed the rattle/creak/annoyance from the rear sunroof on mine is also from the plastic trim underneath. I told the dealer about it today while in for other work and they said they can fix that so I'm going back again in a few weeks to see what they can do.
 
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Old May 15, 2011 | 08:52 AM
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Thanks for the replies. I will try to arrange a visit to the dealer and see what they can do.
 
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Old May 26, 2011 | 10:39 PM
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Okay here's my story...my car has this squeak at the sunroof area too. I've been trying to find out where the sound is coming from. I tried tilting the sunroof, rolling up the shades, looked for any loose parts...no luck. It can be annoying at times, but I told myself I can live with it until I can have it looked at at the dealership when I bring it there later on...maybe for something more pressing.

Finally, I had to bring my car to the dealer to have the "weeping washer nozzle" fixed (yes, my car has this problem too! ). I felt this needed to be fixed asap as it it might damage the paint. So I had the squeak checked too.

As it turned out, there's more to the squeak than earlier thought and the weeping nozzle was easier problem to fix. My SA told me that after stripping most of the roof parts, they figured that a missed weld at the roof structure is causing the squeak. He also mentioned that it's an odd case but not complicated to fix. The car is with them now and my SA will update me tomorrow.

I know it's a bummer that they have to strip the roof bare, but I appreciate that they were thorough in finding out the cause.

In the meantime, I'll just enjoy the 'brand-new' loaner MCS. It only had 36 miles on the odometer and the guy who handed me the keyfob told me they just added it to their loaner fleet this morning.

I just wanted to share my story...
 
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Old Jun 3, 2011 | 03:46 PM
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My sunroof or something in that general area has also started to creak over rough road or any bumps. I haven't investigated much other than searching around on the forums, but these type of things seem to be the bane of my existence with every car I have lol
 
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Old Jun 3, 2011 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by lineaux
Okay here's my story...my car has this squeak at the sunroof area too. I've been trying to find out where the sound is coming from. I tried tilting the sunroof, rolling up the shades, looked for any loose parts...no luck. It can be annoying at times, but I told myself I can live with it until I can have it looked at at the dealership when I bring it there later on...maybe for something more pressing.

Finally, I had to bring my car to the dealer to have the "weeping washer nozzle" fixed (yes, my car has this problem too! ). I felt this needed to be fixed asap as it it might damage the paint. So I had the squeak checked too.

As it turned out, there's more to the squeak than earlier thought and the weeping nozzle was easier problem to fix. My SA told me that after stripping most of the roof parts, they figured that a missed weld at the roof structure is causing the squeak. He also mentioned that it's an odd case but not complicated to fix. The car is with them now and my SA will update me tomorrow.

I know it's a bummer that they have to strip the roof bare, but I appreciate that they were thorough in finding out the cause.

In the meantime, I'll just enjoy the 'brand-new' loaner MCS. It only had 36 miles on the odometer and the guy who handed me the keyfob told me they just added it to their loaner fleet this morning.

I just wanted to share my story...
lineaux,

did the dealer fix your Mini? Did you run the hose over it to make sure it doesn't leak??
 
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Old Jun 4, 2011 | 08:35 AM
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lineaux,

did the dealer fix your Mini? Did you run the hose over it to make sure it doesn't leak??
darthen,
as far as the squeak is concerned, yes that's fixed. It's quiet in the cockpit now and all I hear is just the sound of the engine and stereo.

As it turned out, the SA told me that they weren't able to replicate the weeping nozzle so they couldn't fix it. He told me to continue to keep an eye on it and if it does it again bring it back. The nozzles have not leaked since. I think it happens during hot weather...but we haven't had one for a while now.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2011 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by lineaux
darthen,
as far as the squeak is concerned, yes that's fixed. It's quiet in the cockpit now and all I hear is just the sound of the engine and stereo.

As it turned out, the SA told me that they weren't able to replicate the weeping nozzle so they couldn't fix it. He told me to continue to keep an eye on it and if it does it again bring it back. The nozzles have not leaked since. I think it happens during hot weather...but we haven't had one for a while now.
Did they tell you exactly what they did to fix the roof? I'd like to have mine looked at as well but want to go in there with some idea.

Edit: Oh nevermind, you mentioned what it was earlier. Durr.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2011 | 01:07 PM
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Did they tell you exactly what they did to fix the roof? I'd like to have mine looked at as well but want to go in there with some idea.

Edit: Oh nevermind, you mentioned what it was earlier. Durr.
Actually, here's exactly what's written on the invoice re the problem: "found rattle was coming from a weld in the sunroof frame assembly. removed headliner and sunroof glass. pressed metal seam of affected area together at point of separation. reinstalled sunshades, glass and headliner. road tested vehicle. noise is gone, checks ok. completed."

My mistake...it wasn't a missed weld. Next time, I'll pay closer attention.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2011 | 12:54 PM
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It would appear I have the same issue (or that is what they are thinking the noise is from). Funny, cause I never thought the noise I was hearing came from the sunroof, I thought it was just somewhere on the floor.....

Kimo
 
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 01:43 PM
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Within the past few weeks I have noticed a creaking from the rear panel of the sunroof. After reading all the posts I tried to adjust the panel position with the 6 T-25 screws with no results.

When the sunroof is in "vent" position the sound is really obvious and sounds as if glass is being scratched upon by metal. When the sunroof is in any other configuration (ie closed or rear panel shut) the sound is still present however muted.

Having little luck with lithium greases and adjustments, I removed the entire rear panel to inspect for myself and what I found astonished me.

The rear panel's forward hinge point is atop a thin metal fin which is part of the entire sunroof assembly (not bolted on). The base of both these fins, on both sides of the sunroof, are cracked! The support arms upon which the rear panel is mounted to, is easily moved since both of the forward hinge point support arms are fractured.

This sort of a failure MUST be a manufacturing defect. Agreed? There is no amount of "spirited driving" one can do to fracture the sunroof rear panel hinge point support arms. That is an outrageous claim.

My question to you is, do you think MINI should replace this with no charge to me? Granted I am outside the warranty stage BUT this is a rather poor design/material choice failure, not simple mechanical failure due to wear or modification. A new sunroof assembly (according to realoem.com) is $2549!

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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 10:42 PM
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my 2011 MCS has a new problem.. WOW.. I am not surprised any longer by this car.. creaking rear sunroof panel.. only happens when closed.. when I vent it, its quiet.. Seems like it may have to do with cold temps too..


Yuppe to another shitty MCS 2011 problem.

ps. lots of lube fixed it for now. Sigh.
 

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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 10:51 AM
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My 2007 Cooper S with 30K miles was just in for the 5th time for sunroof wind/creak noises (along with the various won't open-won't close issues). Each time I get it back the type of noise just changes to a different one. The last time was just prior to warranty expiration so I emphasized that issues needed to be resolved. Got it back and the "kazoo" noise at 75MPH was reduced in severity by maybe 25% but now in addition I have a new creaking noise louder in volume than before. My S is one of my favorite cars but the sunroof issues are driving me crazy.
 
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 11:12 AM
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Truth be told, the MINI's sunroof is a bad design... Most modern cars (and especially premium ones) have hidden seals (under the panel not in the periphery). This way, the seals are wider, seal better and are protected from sun radiation. I would imagine that noises resulting from improper adjustment are non-existent, as the seal itself acts as a support preventing rubbing.

Anw... Perhaps the best option for those with sunroof problems is to DIY remove the panels and examine the structure underneath. Some felt tape application can work miracles, provided the substructure is not fractured as with ENEMINI's case.
 
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by NVR2L8
My 2007 Cooper S with 30K miles was just in for the 5th time for sunroof wind/creak noises (along with the various won't open-won't close issues). Each time I get it back the type of noise just changes to a different one. The last time was just prior to warranty expiration so I emphasized that issues needed to be resolved. Got it back and the "kazoo" noise at 75MPH was reduced in severity by maybe 25% but now in addition I have a new creaking noise louder in volume than before. My S is one of my favorite cars but the sunroof issues are driving me crazy.
My sunshades creak...I'm always trying to push and pull them to stop the creak and rattle.... Pisses me off. Sunroof makes odd noises as temp changes as I am in a cold climate and when there is snow on top of the sunroof it creaks and groans
 
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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 12:12 PM
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The dealership refused to assist me, so I'm going to cheap-n-cheap route and JB Weld the cracks. We'll see how that holds. $2600+ for a manufacturing fault is silly, warranty or not.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ENEMINI
The dealership refused to assist me, so I'm going to cheap-n-cheap route and JB Weld the cracks. We'll see how that holds. $2600+ for a manufacturing fault is silly, warranty or not.
Even if the fix doesn't hold forever, you can reapply it anytime But as long as you use a really good epoxy, I don't see why it wouldn't
 
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Old Dec 5, 2011 | 05:52 PM
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Sunroof clicking solved for me

While my Mini was under waranty, I had it at the dealer a dozen times over this clicking and grinding sounds from the sunroof whenever I went over bumps in the road. They even replaced the entire cassette once. the last time they found a broken plastic clip and I have not had any problems since.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2011 | 07:37 AM
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I ended up using 3M DP420 2-part epoxy. The silence is golden (once I regreased my rear sway bushings lol).
 
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