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Old Nov 3, 2003 | 05:27 AM
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Is there any special trick to getting the plugs removed and installed?

Which plugs should I absolutely stay away from?

Should I get the plugs from the dealer?

How much each plug?
 
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Old Nov 3, 2003 | 05:33 AM
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Denso IK20 or IK22 if you have reduced pulley. pretty easy, search the board
and you'll find info. very easy, I did mine, need deep socket, and a tel.scope
mag. to fish out the plug. gaping .035 without any ignition upgrades, which
randy says they are already close to that, and he says use .055 with upgraded
coil. take care when gaping you may want to use small pliers because a gapper
may break the electrode.
Kent
 
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Old Nov 3, 2003 | 05:52 AM
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Ditto....I have the Denso Iridium IK22 and made a nice difference. Highly recommended. Paid $44.00 for the set of 4 and very easy to change out. Was surprised to see the NGK 4 prong plugs were being used as factory.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2003 | 06:38 AM
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Use a deep socket (I forget the size... you could get the new ones and take them to the store if you need a socket) I also agree that using a telescoping magnet is useful for fishing out the plugs. Some sockets have a little rubber thing in them to help grab the plug. Then all you need to do is pull the plug wires and unscrew the old, screw in the new and replace the plug wires. A little anti-seize compound around the threads of the plugs might also help for when you go to remove them later on.

As a side note... how exactly to you gap these newer plugs? I know how to gap the old style plugs (you just run the gap measurement thing in the space) but with the new ones I'm not sure where to measure.... is it just between the white tip and the top of the metal? Since it's curved a little it kindof throws me off as to what to do.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2003 | 06:50 AM
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Can you explain why different plugs for the pulley mod than without a pulley mod?

I haven't bought plugs in years, but $44.00 seems pretty expensive. Is this the going rate for plugs now or are these specialty plugs you're referring to?
 
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 12:55 PM
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I went to the dealership today and they want $66 for a set of 4 of the stock NGK's, so the $44.00 doesn't seem that bad now.


 
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 10:28 AM
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So do you mind telling us where you got them for $44? I found them for $44.80 + shipping
 
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 10:55 AM
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I don't know where Bruce got his, but I'm getting mine thru Randy for 65.00. Which is still less than what the dealership charges...

I did a quick search on-line and I came across the following results:

Yahoo Shopping search query

And the top result was for LTB Motorsports for only 10.99 each.

But I'm going to wait for Randy to bring his down when he's here for the pulley party in less than three weeks.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 07:39 PM
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If you're hung up on paying $10+ for the Densos NGK makes an Iridium in the same size for ~$7.

I've always used NGKs because they were better than the alternatives in the past, so I'm not really sure where they stand w/respect to the Densos. (All I recall is that they have rolled threads and seem to be well-made.)

Later,

Jeff

 
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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 09:59 PM
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>>I went to the dealership today and they want $66 for a set of 4 of the stock NGK's, so the $44.00 doesn't seem that bad now.
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Amazing markup! Go to http://www.rockauto.com/ and look up your car model. Mine (MC) specifies the NGK BKR 6 EQUP and they sell it for $7.23 each.

I hope they're pre-gapped because the central electrode of the NGK plug is flush with the insulator, unlike the old fashioned plugs where the central electrode protruded out a little and you could use a gapping tool. The four metal prongs do not overlap the central electrode.

ChiTown Coop, if you're reading this, the days of $2.99 platinum plugs are gone, at least for quality plugs. There are different grades of platinum plugs, and NGK claims they coat their electrodes with more platinum (this precious metal costs $400 an ounce). Imagine how much more Iridium wuld cost.

In another thread I have given a description for the letter codes for the plug.
 
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