Solo Pedals and Heal-toeing
Pedals and Heal-toeing
All,
I took delivery of a 2006 MCS w LSD a couple of weeks ago. It's a great handling car but the juxtapostion of throttle and brake pedal is less than ideal for heal towing. The biggest problem is that the brake pedal is too high! Have you found a way to lower the brake actuation point? How else have you dealt with this issue?
Many thanks,
Bruce S
I took delivery of a 2006 MCS w LSD a couple of weeks ago. It's a great handling car but the juxtapostion of throttle and brake pedal is less than ideal for heal towing. The biggest problem is that the brake pedal is too high! Have you found a way to lower the brake actuation point? How else have you dealt with this issue?
Many thanks,
Bruce S
My brake pedal has dropped as the car aged... it took a good month to settle in to a decent position and now my brake pedal is even too or just lower than the accelerator under HARD braking.
I ball-toe shift (ball of the foot on the brake, pinkie toe on the gas), but the accelerator is a bit too far to the right for me to catch the gas w/ my toe when I wear my driving shoes. I'm looking for a slightly wider accelerator petal... for track days, at least.
I ball-toe shift (ball of the foot on the brake, pinkie toe on the gas), but the accelerator is a bit too far to the right for me to catch the gas w/ my toe when I wear my driving shoes. I'm looking for a slightly wider accelerator petal... for track days, at least.
I also do the ball-toe method, which works great for me. I have wide shoes, so I have no problem blipping the throttle while I'm braking.
I probably would have an issue if I wore narrow driving shoes...
I probably would have an issue if I wore narrow driving shoes...
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I think Heel / Toe is a bit of a misnomer, as in most instances its the ball of the foot on the brake and the right-hand side of the foot just below the smallest toe (in the direction of the ankle) that does the job. So your sort of rocking the foot radially left and right.
Pedals and Heal-toeing
My brake pedal has dropped as the car aged... it took a good month to settle in to a decent position and now my brake pedal is even too or just lower than the accelerator under HARD braking.
I ball-toe shift (ball of the foot on the brake, pinkie toe on the gas), but the accelerator is a bit too far to the right for me to catch the gas w/ my toe when I wear my driving shoes. I'm looking for a slightly wider accelerator petal... for track days, at least.
I ball-toe shift (ball of the foot on the brake, pinkie toe on the gas), but the accelerator is a bit too far to the right for me to catch the gas w/ my toe when I wear my driving shoes. I'm looking for a slightly wider accelerator petal... for track days, at least.
And yes, heal-toeing isn't a good description of what we do. It's left over from some arcane (brake in the middle?) pedal arrangement and the term has never been updated to match the current practice.
Thanks, Bruce S
Well, this at least give some hope. I will continue to stomp on it for a while.
And yes, heal-toeing isn't a good description of what we do. It's left over from some arcane (brake in the middle?) pedal arrangement and the term has never been updated to match the current practice.
Thanks, Bruce S
And yes, heal-toeing isn't a good description of what we do. It's left over from some arcane (brake in the middle?) pedal arrangement and the term has never been updated to match the current practice.
Thanks, Bruce S
I've got my eye on several pedal sets, but none of 'em fix the problem completely.
I'm thinking about getting creative w/ some cardboard and custom-ordering a gas pedal from ultimate pedals.
i have a set of "ultimate" pedals. they work great w/ my racing shoes. they are a little close when driving w/ my work boots. i got the ones w/ the rubber bumps, which i knock off w/ aforementioned work boots. i'd choose better on the track, so they stay. it really varies with ones foot size and choice of footware.
I'll second that. If I'm in some nice Italian dress shoes or big boots I have a hard time fitting my foot between the right side plastic and the brake pedal to get to the gas.
I'm thinking of skipping the round MINI brake/clutch pedals from Ultimate Pedals (with the screw holes in an X design) for a pair of Ferrari brake/clutch pedals from Ultimate (with the screw holes straight across). This way, for track days in my narrower driving shoes with nice soles, I could slide the brake pedal over to the right one notch (1 set of screw holes), bringing it closer to the gas and making ball/toe shifting easier. After track play-time is done, however, I could move the brake pedal back over to the left, to a more factory-set position, for better shoe clearance.
I'm thinking of skipping the round MINI brake/clutch pedals from Ultimate Pedals (with the screw holes in an X design) for a pair of Ferrari brake/clutch pedals from Ultimate (with the screw holes straight across). This way, for track days in my narrower driving shoes with nice soles, I could slide the brake pedal over to the right one notch (1 set of screw holes), bringing it closer to the gas and making ball/toe shifting easier. After track play-time is done, however, I could move the brake pedal back over to the left, to a more factory-set position, for better shoe clearance.
I don't have the 2007 SOLO II rules on the computer I'm using, but somewhere in my memory is something about modified pedals not being allowed in stock classes. Perhaps someone who is more knowledgable, or who has the rule book, can clarify the point.
thanks,
Joe
thanks,
Joe
There is no mention of brake pedals in the Stock Class Solo 2 rules. But in Street Prepared it specifically says they are allowed. I'm pretty sure this means they are NOT allowed in the Stock classes. Sorry...
If the rules don't expressly say you can do it, you can't.
I'll second that. If I'm in some nice Italian dress shoes or big boots I have a hard time fitting my foot between the right side plastic and the brake pedal to get to the gas.
I'm thinking of skipping the round MINI brake/clutch pedals from Ultimate Pedals (with the screw holes in an X design) for a pair of Ferrari brake/clutch pedals from Ultimate (with the screw holes straight across). This way, for track days in my narrower driving shoes with nice soles, I could slide the brake pedal over to the right one notch (1 set of screw holes), bringing it closer to the gas and making ball/toe shifting easier. After track play-time is done, however, I could move the brake pedal back over to the left, to a more factory-set position, for better shoe clearance.
I'm thinking of skipping the round MINI brake/clutch pedals from Ultimate Pedals (with the screw holes in an X design) for a pair of Ferrari brake/clutch pedals from Ultimate (with the screw holes straight across). This way, for track days in my narrower driving shoes with nice soles, I could slide the brake pedal over to the right one notch (1 set of screw holes), bringing it closer to the gas and making ball/toe shifting easier. After track play-time is done, however, I could move the brake pedal back over to the left, to a more factory-set position, for better shoe clearance.
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I installed that extended gas pedal designed for the MINI that you mention from Ultimate Pedals (it's still wider than stock at the top left edge of the pedal), along with the MINI dead pedal.
I installed a brake and clutch pedal for a Mod I Ferrari (I think... go by the pictures on the UltimatePedals website) because it had more holes horizontally across the pedals. Now, for track days, I can move the brake pedal a set of holes to the right so that it's closer to the accelerator and it makes ball-toe shifting MUCH easier. The swap only takes 10 minutes or so at the track so I can drive fast with my driving shoes and I can wear my cool Italian dress shoes when the pedals are in 'daily driver' mode.
I installed a brake and clutch pedal for a Mod I Ferrari (I think... go by the pictures on the UltimatePedals website) because it had more holes horizontally across the pedals. Now, for track days, I can move the brake pedal a set of holes to the right so that it's closer to the accelerator and it makes ball-toe shifting MUCH easier. The swap only takes 10 minutes or so at the track so I can drive fast with my driving shoes and I can wear my cool Italian dress shoes when the pedals are in 'daily driver' mode.
There is a good photo here of the oval MINI pedals... looks more factory, but mine provide more functionality for how I drive.
There is also a great photo of the accelerator assembly from the back, so you can see how much wider the Ultimate Petals accelerator is vs. stock.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...1&postcount=11
There is also a great photo of the accelerator assembly from the back, so you can see how much wider the Ultimate Petals accelerator is vs. stock.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...1&postcount=11
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