Guidelines need revision...
Guidelines need revision...
OK, I think the site guidelines need to be revised...
IMHO the guidelines should be amended to add:
SPEED
Posts relating to any speed in excess of 55mph will be locked and deleted regardless of any legal issues contain therein.
After all, that's what's happening, isn't it? The latest "Top Speed" thread in the R56 General forum (at least as of 1400 when I last looked) had 2 comments from folks in the US referencing speeding. References (such as my own) to speeds in excess of 100 mph that occured on unrestricted stretches of German autobahn were PERFECTLY LEGAL
(Road/weather/traffic conditions notwithstanding) If Guideline #5 is to be so strictly adhered to, then how is it that this thread:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=47304
remains? After all, double parking is a violation of parking laws is it not?
Naturally, I can't see the post so there's no way for me to know that the whole thing didn't turn into a big flame war but as of the last time I looked (1400 again) the only "Questionable" content referred to someone doing 130mph on the way to Vegas. But other than that, what purpose did removing the thread serve??
Please, enlighten me.
LEGAL
Posts relating to street racing, excessive speeding, or violations of other laws are prohibited. If you want to race, take it to a legal venue.
Posts relating to street racing, excessive speeding, or violations of other laws are prohibited. If you want to race, take it to a legal venue.
SPEED
Posts relating to any speed in excess of 55mph will be locked and deleted regardless of any legal issues contain therein.
After all, that's what's happening, isn't it? The latest "Top Speed" thread in the R56 General forum (at least as of 1400 when I last looked) had 2 comments from folks in the US referencing speeding. References (such as my own) to speeds in excess of 100 mph that occured on unrestricted stretches of German autobahn were PERFECTLY LEGAL
(Road/weather/traffic conditions notwithstanding) If Guideline #5 is to be so strictly adhered to, then how is it that this thread:https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=47304
remains? After all, double parking is a violation of parking laws is it not?
Naturally, I can't see the post so there's no way for me to know that the whole thing didn't turn into a big flame war but as of the last time I looked (1400 again) the only "Questionable" content referred to someone doing 130mph on the way to Vegas. But other than that, what purpose did removing the thread serve??
Please, enlighten me.
If Guideline #5 is to be so strictly adhered to, then how is it that this thread:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=47304
remains?
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=47304
remains?
IMHO, the mods do an excellent job in drawing the line between a bit of speeding most everyone does to the verboten area of reckless driving (which, BTW, is 80 MPH in VA!)
Instead of coming on here and complaining about the guidelines, how about reporting a post.
The moderation here is human, not electronic. Sometimes we have to rely on members like yourself to report posts so that they are brought to our attention. We can't read every thread and every post.
High speeds attained in a legal venue, including racetracks and the Autobahn, are not the issue here.
In future, please use the report a post icon (
)what you are not happy with - that may include a moderator's post if you feel they are too heavy handed or not in line with the spirit of the guidelines.
The moderation here is human, not electronic. Sometimes we have to rely on members like yourself to report posts so that they are brought to our attention. We can't read every thread and every post.
High speeds attained in a legal venue, including racetracks and the Autobahn, are not the issue here.
In future, please use the report a post icon (
)what you are not happy with - that may include a moderator's post if you feel they are too heavy handed or not in line with the spirit of the guidelines.
That's just it, I'm not "Complaining". I'm simply providing feedback. I feel that the way certain things get moderated are not in line with the posted guidelines. I therefore suggested a solution. I'm frustrated, but am not trying to start anything. I simple feel that the way threads are moderated in the name of Guideline #5 do not go along with the Guideline as written.
As for the "Report Post" button, I believe that the intent of that method is in order to report posts of a more serious nature, i.e. personal attacks, etc.
Then would someone care to explain why the thread was deleted? I know for a fact that I never mentioned any illegal action 
Thanks
As for the "Report Post" button, I believe that the intent of that method is in order to report posts of a more serious nature, i.e. personal attacks, etc.
High speeds attained in a legal venue, including racetracks and the Autobahn, are not the issue here.

Thanks
That's just it, I'm not "Complaining". I'm simply providing feedback. I feel that the way certain things get moderated are not in line with the posted guidelines. I therefore suggested a solution. I'm frustrated, but am not trying to start anything. I simple feel that the way threads are moderated in the name of Guideline #5 do not go along with the Guideline as written.
Dude, once again, I don't want to start a big to-do. I've seen threads disappear that were in blatant disregard of rule 5. This one didn't seem to be one of them. This is my personal view of course, but why else are we here other than to share personal views/experiences 
As for:
55 was just used as an example. And I also understand that "Excessive" is a subjective thing and that the Mods are the ones who NEED to make such determinations.

As for:
The guidelines says "excessive" speeding, not simply exceeding 55.
OK, I'll still have to confer with the other mods (esp. the person that moved it to under review), but I suspect what happened is that the thread required a LOT of babysitting. After all, in the 25 posts made in it, there were multiple instances of very high speeds stated without qualification of the autobahn or racetrack, including from a number of people located here in the USA. It wasn't a case of just one post (although one was more blatant than the others), it probably started to become difficult to monitor. Even the linked videos are uncertain, with some confusion as to whether they were competely legal or not (not all of the video was on the German autobahn).
Anyway, it's still under review. It hasn't been black holed yet, so it's possible it might come back (likely with more edits, if so).
Anyway, it's still under review. It hasn't been black holed yet, so it's possible it might come back (likely with more edits, if so).
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OK, I understand that. And I'm not lobbying for the thread's reinstatement so much as for more... I don't know how to put it which is probably half of my problem. I DID forget about that 130mph video. If it was indeed taken on a Bundesstrasse then that's WAY over the top. The "Unrestricted" limit on B-Roads to 100kph (62mph). Although it brings to mind the question of... would the video be unacceptable to reference if qualified by a "What NOT to do" comment?
Thx again
Thx again
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