What is wrong here on NAM
#276
Well you never know definitively what people do with your info but I feel like thus far I have only joined safe sites & I hope in the future to be able to avoid shady sites where mods use your personal info inappropriately
#277
helpful hint for everybody on the interwebnets - change your email to something nonsensical after you first register (or delete it altogether if the site lets you). Forums in general are not bound by any privacy regulations and moderators are after all just anonymous members with responsibility and access. I use beavis@aol.com
we had a banned member come back with an alter ego this week. it was clear who it was and the IP check confirmed. Silly idjit used his work email to register. Good thing he did....he just threatened one of my mods via IM after he was banned again. We know where he works, who runs the company, we have his picture and we know his full name, phone number, etc. Crooks are stupid. If he keeps it up, we'll contact his employer and the police...searching his username, it's clear he's an e-bully and has been banned from multiple forums.
we had a banned member come back with an alter ego this week. it was clear who it was and the IP check confirmed. Silly idjit used his work email to register. Good thing he did....he just threatened one of my mods via IM after he was banned again. We know where he works, who runs the company, we have his picture and we know his full name, phone number, etc. Crooks are stupid. If he keeps it up, we'll contact his employer and the police...searching his username, it's clear he's an e-bully and has been banned from multiple forums.
#278
helpful hint for everybody on the interwebnets - change your email to something nonsensical after you first register (or delete it altogether if the site lets you). Forums in general are not bound by any privacy regulations and moderators are after all just anonymous members with responsibility and access. I use beavis@aol.com
we had a banned member come back with an alter ego this week. it was clear who it was and the IP check confirmed. Silly idjit used his work email to register. Good thing he did....he just threatened one of my mods via IM after he was banned again. We know where he works, who runs the company, we have his picture and we know his full name, phone number, etc. Crooks are stupid. If he keeps it up, we'll contact his employer and the police...searching his username, it's clear he's an e-bully and has been banned from multiple forums.
we had a banned member come back with an alter ego this week. it was clear who it was and the IP check confirmed. Silly idjit used his work email to register. Good thing he did....he just threatened one of my mods via IM after he was banned again. We know where he works, who runs the company, we have his picture and we know his full name, phone number, etc. Crooks are stupid. If he keeps it up, we'll contact his employer and the police...searching his username, it's clear he's an e-bully and has been banned from multiple forums.
Yeah but that's a little different... using registration information after someone has threatened you or similar. To take someone's info when they first sign on & go snooping for every other post they have made at other websites, their myspace account, Etc... is just creepy & wrong. Plus I would hope that our personal information is protected. I mean when I make a purchase thru the NAM store I would hope that my address & credit card information are adequately protected.
#279
helpful hint for everybody on the interwebnets - change your email to something nonsensical after you first register (or delete it altogether if the site lets you). Forums in general are not bound by any privacy regulations and moderators are after all just anonymous members with responsibility and access. I use beavis@aol.com
- You'll no longer receive private message notifications via email (if you have pop-up PM notification enabled you'll at least get that if you visit the site)
- You'll no longer receive updates from subscribed threads or forums
- We won't be able to notify you when we launch something new on the site (and we have a lot of new features coming soon)
Mark
#280
I hope he means 'lurk' vs 'troll'
Doing Google on 'Deviant' is probably not a good idea in any case.
Welcome back dave and goaljnky!
As for staying on topic, uh, I thought I could be a moderator until I say this:
Welcome back dave and goaljnky!
As for staying on topic, uh, I thought I could be a moderator until I say this:
...and they can lead by example...
#281
MBE I should start using butthead@aol.com
Yeah but that's a little different... using registration information after someone has threatened you or similar. To take someone's info when they first sign on & go snooping for every other post they have made at other websites, their myspace account, Etc... is just creepy & wrong. Plus I would hope that our personal information is protected. I mean when I make a purchase thru the NAM store I would hope that my address & credit card information are adequately protected.
Yeah but that's a little different... using registration information after someone has threatened you or similar. To take someone's info when they first sign on & go snooping for every other post they have made at other websites, their myspace account, Etc... is just creepy & wrong. Plus I would hope that our personal information is protected. I mean when I make a purchase thru the NAM store I would hope that my address & credit card information are adequately protected.
I take my and everyone's privacy on the site seriously and make every attempt to keep it private. If you haven't looked at it our Privacy Policy is a link at the bottom of every page of the site.
Mark
#282
One thing I would like to address on this subject. We have never sold or used email addresses for anything other than communicating with members. If you change your email address to something that doesn't work a couple of things will happen:
Mark
- You'll no longer receive private message notifications via email (if you have pop-up PM notification enabled you'll at least get that if you visit the site)
- You'll no longer receive updates from subscribed threads or forums
- We won't be able to notify you when we launch something new on the site (and we have a lot of new features coming soon)
Mark
obviously, not using a valid emails means you lose funtionality. I check my userCP for thread updates and PM's so the email notice is usually redundant (and given the number of forums I'm on, it's nice not getting 500 emails a day )
#283
I just read the NAM "Security Policy" & while I am not even sure if the all?/any?/some? of MODS have access to our info, it does appear as if here on NAM they are bound by a privacy/security policy of course I have no idea what that policy is
#284
MBE I should start using butthead@aol.com
#286
We are bound by and agree with Mark's policies - the email addresses are only ever used to convey NAM matters, that's it. Same goes for any other info you put in there (like your age, for example... should you choose to hide from public view).
#287
Regardless we don't pass your email around and share it with others on the site.
Mark
#288
#289
#290
Back on topic for a sec...
This morning this post was reported. I think is a great example of what doesn't feel like community to me. I responded by calling out the user and by including information so that others may add him to their ignore lists if they see fit.
Thoughts on this approach? Ideally I would like to see other members calling people out for their actions so that something like this doesn't require moderation intervention. Having members do that will not only reduce the moderator load but will archive the level of interaction we accept/don't accept as a community.
Mark
This morning this post was reported. I think is a great example of what doesn't feel like community to me. I responded by calling out the user and by including information so that others may add him to their ignore lists if they see fit.
Thoughts on this approach? Ideally I would like to see other members calling people out for their actions so that something like this doesn't require moderation intervention. Having members do that will not only reduce the moderator load but will archive the level of interaction we accept/don't accept as a community.
Mark
#291
I don't know Mark. Ideally most of the forums should be dedicated to discussion of the MINI, although a little humor or the occasional OT thread doesn't hurt.
But as with most subjects, opinions are going to vary considerably as to what is or is not acceptable. If threads get filled up with various interpretations of the rules of conduct, we all lose.
One post from you will have a greater effect than 100 from members. Chances are you're still going to get a report on posts like that. A post like that is probably better off ignored by members. The poster is looking for attention. Responding will only get him what he wants.
When I started a thread on a little stoplight challenge, I quickly learned the meaning of IB4TL, and the points I got on my account will prevent me from doing it again.
But as with most subjects, opinions are going to vary considerably as to what is or is not acceptable. If threads get filled up with various interpretations of the rules of conduct, we all lose.
One post from you will have a greater effect than 100 from members. Chances are you're still going to get a report on posts like that. A post like that is probably better off ignored by members. The poster is looking for attention. Responding will only get him what he wants.
When I started a thread on a little stoplight challenge, I quickly learned the meaning of IB4TL, and the points I got on my account will prevent me from doing it again.
Last edited by jascooper; 10-19-2007 at 10:00 AM.
#295
I don't know Mark. Ideally most of the forums should be dedicated to discussion of the MINI, although a little humor or the occasional OT thread doesn't hurt.
But as with most subjects, opinions are going to vary considerably as to what is or is not acceptable. If threads get filled up with various interpretations of the rules of conduct, we all lose.
One post from you will have a greater effect than 100 from members. Chances are you're still going to get a report on posts like that. A post like that is probably better off ignored by members. The poster is looking for attention. Responding will only get him what he wants.
When I started a thread on a little stoplight challenge, I quickly learned the meaning of IB4TL, and the points I got on my account will prevent me from doing it again.
But as with most subjects, opinions are going to vary considerably as to what is or is not acceptable. If threads get filled up with various interpretations of the rules of conduct, we all lose.
One post from you will have a greater effect than 100 from members. Chances are you're still going to get a report on posts like that. A post like that is probably better off ignored by members. The poster is looking for attention. Responding will only get him what he wants.
When I started a thread on a little stoplight challenge, I quickly learned the meaning of IB4TL, and the points I got on my account will prevent me from doing it again.
Moderation is one way of doing this but everyone has to react in a similar way, assess similar consequences, etc. to make it work effectively. If we are to stop over-moderating then the members of the site have to step up. Otherwise we are left with no option other than to intervene with some type of moderation action.
Mark
#296
I realize that my posting may have a bit more impact than others but I can't be on the site all the time, policing, and still hope to do any of the strategic things I want to do for the site and community. I need assistance, in some way, to help set the tone on the site so that its not just me that calls people out when they say or do something that isn't in the spirit of the community as a whole.
Moderation is one way of doing this but everyone has to react in a similar way, assess similar consequences, etc. to make it work effectively. If we are to stop over-moderating then the members of the site have to step up. Otherwise we are left with no option other than to intervene with some type of moderation action.
Mark
Moderation is one way of doing this but everyone has to react in a similar way, assess similar consequences, etc. to make it work effectively. If we are to stop over-moderating then the members of the site have to step up. Otherwise we are left with no option other than to intervene with some type of moderation action.
Mark
#297
Thoughts on this approach? Ideally I would like to see other members calling people out for their actions so that something like this doesn't require moderation intervention. Having members do that will not only reduce the moderator load but will archive the level of interaction we accept/don't accept as a community.
Someone who's a newbie, though, who comes in and starts posting inflammatory remarks is less likely to be brought into line by people who don't have some official title under their name that would imply the ability to enforce discipline. Of course, some people like to stir things up, and don't care who chastises them; they're going to argue with anyone. I would expect a lot of, "Who the heck are you to tell me what not to say or how to behave?! It's not your site - you can't tell me what to do."
Last edited by 70spop; 10-19-2007 at 10:18 AM.
#299
...Someone who's a newbie, though, who comes in and starts posting inflammatory remarks is less likely to be brought into line by people who don't have some official title under their name that would imply the ability to enforce discipline. Of course, some people like to stir things up, and don't care who chastises them; they're going to argue with anyone. I would expect a lot of, "Who the heck are you to tell me what not to say or how to behave?! It's not your site - you can't tell me what to do."
#300
IB4TL is a form of self-policing...all you have to do is see/post this and everybody knows there's trouble. So make up some others:
WYSWI - What you said was inappropriate.
YONUH - Your Opinion, Not Universally Held
BOT - Beware Of Troll
RB Post #345 - Reader Beware of Post #345
PEAP - Please edit above post.
VOSGON - Violates of site guidelines of NAM
OYJEY - Oops, you just embarassed yourself
Maybe one will catch on.
WYSWI - What you said was inappropriate.
YONUH - Your Opinion, Not Universally Held
BOT - Beware Of Troll
RB Post #345 - Reader Beware of Post #345
PEAP - Please edit above post.
VOSGON - Violates of site guidelines of NAM
OYJEY - Oops, you just embarassed yourself
Maybe one will catch on.