Hey,

i was lookin through http://www.mcshp.org at the intakes and the BMP intake looks like it adds the most HP. it says it adds 12.9 HP and is only $ 169. it is by far the cheapest intake on there and it adds the most power. what do u guys think? wat is the best Intake in your opinion? which adds the most power? wat about the Monster-Mini intake and the K&N intake?

 

12.9 is the manufacturer's claim. I think independant testing has show much much lower results.

People here tend to like the Rogue Eng intake as it consitantly produces around 6-10 hp for the MCS. BTW, what did you Ford truck friend think of those crash test links I sent you?

 

>>12.9 is the manufacturer's claim. I think independant testing has show much much lower results.
>>
>>People here tend to like the Rogue Eng intake as it consitantly produces around 6-10 hp for the MCS. BTW, what did you Ford truck friend think of those crash test links I sent you?


ya, i think i might get the BMP cuz 12.9 (if talk my dad into it) is a lot and it is much less money than all of the other ones. The rouge is the one offerd by Mini-Madness and it is a lot of money....

if i get BMP that is 13 hp and then i get Magnaflow that is 20 hp... then

163 (base hp) + 13 (intake) + 20 (magnaflow) = 196 hp

is that accurate??
196 hp for only 850 dollars?

o ya, my friends wit the Fords still will not admit that i am right. they continue to tell me about head-on collisions, thats all they say "wat would win in a head-on collision"

 

I have the BMP....for quite some time now and it has and performs GREAT !!! It looks the best and was esay to install. Alot of people here think that the Rouge is better but I have put both on my car and the are idenical in perfomance. For me look's mattered alot since I show my car and it is by far the best looking choice. And man does the supercharger whine souns sweet.

 

>>I have the BMP....for quite some time now and it has and performs GREAT !!! It looks the best and was esay to install. Alot of people here think that the Rouge is better but I have put both on my car and the are idenical in perfomance. For me look's mattered alot since I show my car and it is by far the best looking choice. And man does the supercharger whine souns sweet.

does it add a lot of power?? u think the BMP adds more HP than the Rouge?? which one do u think adds more power? thanks for ur help

 

I would like to know how difficult the BMP was to install. Did it require any special tools or cutting? Or was it a straight forward replacement? :smile:

 

>>o ya, my friends wit the Fords still will not admit that i am right. they continue to tell me about head-on collisions, thats all they say "wat would win in a head-on collision"

Yikes, that's rude they don't believe ya, even with the evidence of independant testing!

 

>>if i get BMP that is 13 hp and then i get Magnaflow that is 20 hp... then

Where did you come up with the 20 hp number?? No one I know of has gotten that much from the Magnaflow exhaust by itself...

Also the 13 hp seems a tad high. I bet if you put both the BMP and the Magnaflow on you'd get around 18 hp total.

 

>>163 (base hp) + 13 (intake) + 20 (magnaflow) = 196 hp
>>
>>is that accurate??

Nope. Can't add hp numbers together so easily. Most say while one thing improves a lacking area of the car in a certain RPM range another thing aides the car in a different RPM range. Also people say that when an item improves a lacking area (in this case freeflow of air -- exhaust and intake) that either item will help it, but not both since the first already improved where the second would have if the first didn't help.

 

D.D. -
very easy install took about 10 minutes. no special tools. no cutting. easy. :smile:

 

Thanks........I too think the BMP looks great and it's a real inexpensive way to gain more H.P. Do you notice a significant increase in the whine in the cockpit? I will be putting my order in for this mod........it appears to be WELL worth the money!

 

>>Thanks........I too think the BMP looks great and it's a real inexpensive way to gain more H.P. Do you notice a significant increase in the whine in the cockpit? I will be putting my order in for this mod........it appears to be WELL worth the money!
D.D.,
The supercharger whine is louder, but not significantly so. It is a pleasant noise, and not at all an intrusion. Install is very easy, as Rustle mentioned. First gear stumble is a problem that the intale removes to a large degree. Smoother acceleration is also something I noticed. I don't feel that there is a huge difference in performance between the Rogue/Madness and the BMP. Either is fine, the BMP is cheaper and looks cooler IMHO.
Bluesmaster

 

I went with the Rogue/Madness. After researching, this was the only one that had dyno testing backing up the horsepower gains. The BMP says 12.9 gain, but doesn't show the dyno test. Also, it looks like there is no cold-air box with the BMP to seal out hot engine air. This might be why the Rogue costs more. That said, it's still waiting in the garage for my MCS to arrive - this week, I hope!. So, I have no first-hand experience to go by. Both probably have similar gains.

BTW, I think Randy at Mini-motorsports concurs with the assessment of the Rogue.

 

From what I've seen, the Madness intake dynos at around 7-9hp and the BMP only 4hp. THe magnaflow is around 10-12hp. HP is NOT additive, however, and the BMP plus the magnaflow will probably come in at around 12-15hp. Something for sure, but nowhere near the 33hp you were thinking about.

 

>>From what I've seen, the Madness intake dynos at around 7-9hp and the BMP only 4hp. THe magnaflow is around 10-12hp. HP is NOT additive, however, and the BMP plus the magnaflow will probably come in at around 12-15hp. Something for sure, but nowhere near the 33hp you were thinking about.

Bingo!

I think I remember 12-14hp for the Magnaflow and yes, 7-9hp for the Madness intake when mcshp and Madness used my car as a dyno donor.

R

 

how come http://www.mcshp.org say that BMP Intake adds 13 hp???

 

That site used the manufacturers numbers. Independent testing is
more like 3-4 hp but it has the best supercharger whine.
I don't think the difference would be noticeable to go with the highest
hp rated and priced Madness intake. The K&N is overpriced IMHO.

 

>>That site used the manufacturers numbers. Independent testing is
>>more like 3-4 hp but it has the best supercharger whine.
>>I don't think the difference would be noticeable to go with the highest
>>hp rated and priced Madness intake. The K&N is overpriced IMHO.

ya, but if the madness intake give you a lot more HP, then do u get more power?? i wish i could test these things out, to even see if they do anything

 

>>Hey,
>>
>>i was lookin through http://www.mcshp.org at the intakes and the BMP intake looks like it adds the most HP. it says it adds 12.9 HP and is only $ 169. it is by far the cheapest intake on there and it adds the most power. what do u guys think? wat is the best Intake in your opinion? which adds the most power? wat about the Monster-Mini intake and the K&N intake?

Yep this was a manufacture claim and since we tested this reciently, we have made the adjustment.

Please mail me if you guys see anything funky on the site.

Thanks!

 

>>how come http://www.mcshp.org say that BMP Intake adds 13 hp???

Seems that I need to make a manufacture claims area and an as tested area. Sorry for the confusion.


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Yep, you guys have pretty much covered it. I've been really busy the last couple of days and have slacked on the response time here on MCO - I plan to cut out sleeping all together to fix this issue.

The Rogue/Madness has shown in independent tests a gain of 7 or so hp consistently with a warm car, whereas the BMP is around 4.

The BMP looks great - and it allows the use of the very nice front strut brace that BMP makes. It is slightly louder, but not at all intrusive.

The Rogue is a very well built piece, makes great power, but costs more and precludes the use of a strut brace wihtout modification. It is a very nice install, and wins in the power contests.

Any of the intakes are extremely easy to install - 15 minutes tops.

As Bryan said, the reason the BMP was showing 13 hp on his site is the manufaturer's claim number - he has since posted the data he found through the testing up there, and our testing here in Denver confirms his findings.

As far as the Magnaflow making 20 hp, uh, no. It makes 12-15, and with an intake it makes 18. Mods are not cumulative - we've talked about this, work with me people .

Let me know if you have any other questions.

Randy
720-841-1002
randy@mini-motorsport.com

 

>>>>Hey,
>>>>
>>>>i was lookin through http://www.mcshp.org at the intakes and the BMP intake looks like it adds the most HP. it says it adds 12.9 HP and is only $ 169. it is by far the cheapest intake on there and it adds the most power. what do u guys think? wat is the best Intake in your opinion? which adds the most power? wat about the Monster-Mini intake and the K&N intake?
>>
>>Yep this was a manufacture claim and since we tested this reciently, we have made the adjustment.
>>
>>Please mail me if you guys see anything funky on the site.
>>
>>Thanks!

Have you actually tested the Mini Madness Intake / Evo Chip>? I noticed mcshp.org has some actual numers for that combination. Were these numbers derived from the manufacturer's clearly non-impartial dyno?

http://www.mcshp.org/parts/chip/Mini...s%20Intake.jpg