R58 NCSExpert questions related to R58/Coupe
so i know there are a ton of NCSExpert threads here at NAM however i have yet to see a single one dedicated to our R58 models. I thought i'd start a thread and start posting my settings from my 2013 R58 Coupe now that i feel i'm beyond the newb stage of using NCSExpert. Okeey helped remotely code my mini initially but afterwards i decided to learn it just because well.. i'm a computer guy and like to tinker!!
Here's a list of the mods i've done myself (okeey did the harder jobs like VIM and seatbelt chimes, etc)
1. DRL = city lights only (leds above fog lamps)
2. Remote window up via fob
3. European double-flash hazards
To Dos:
1. Messing w/the Dynamic braking system and getting our pretty rear brake led/lights to work like the canadian/european versions.
2. messing w/the other lighting settings and figuring out which lights i can have on w/DRL
3. other random fun settings that hopefully won't brick my car's ecu
i'll follow up to this thread later when i have my laptop w/the codes in it.
Here's a list of the mods i've done myself (okeey did the harder jobs like VIM and seatbelt chimes, etc)
1. DRL = city lights only (leds above fog lamps)
2. Remote window up via fob
3. European double-flash hazards
To Dos:
1. Messing w/the Dynamic braking system and getting our pretty rear brake led/lights to work like the canadian/european versions.
2. messing w/the other lighting settings and figuring out which lights i can have on w/DRL
3. other random fun settings that hopefully won't brick my car's ecu

i'll follow up to this thread later when i have my laptop w/the codes in it.
I've played with it a lot 90% of stuff that works on a R56 works just fine on the R58. Have not looked into the third brake light didn't even know it didn't work but ill look into it, if anyone wants a list of what works pm me ill be happy to send you a modified list from the r56 spreadsheet
sorry about the lack of updates. it seems that most of the mods that worked on the R56 work on the R58.
I did the DRL mods but reverted back since i plan to get the updated Fog lights/Xenon DRLs that mini just released this month
I never go auto up for windows to work
I did get the remote windows up and down to work fine
Had Okee do the VIM mod since it involved redoing a file in binary
Disabled the seatbelt warning and navigation warnings
I did the DRL mods but reverted back since i plan to get the updated Fog lights/Xenon DRLs that mini just released this month

I never go auto up for windows to work
I did get the remote windows up and down to work fine
Had Okee do the VIM mod since it involved redoing a file in binary
Disabled the seatbelt warning and navigation warnings
so i know there are a ton of NCSExpert threads here at NAM however i have yet to see a single one dedicated to our R58 models. I thought i'd start a thread and start posting my settings from my 2013 R58 Coupe now that i feel i'm beyond the newb stage of using NCSExpert. Okeey helped remotely code my mini initially but afterwards i decided to learn it just because well.. i'm a computer guy and like to tinker!!
Here's a list of the mods i've done myself (okeey did the harder jobs like VIM and seatbelt chimes, etc)
1. DRL = city lights only (leds above fog lamps)
2. Remote window up via fob
3. European double-flash hazards
To Dos:
1. Messing w/the Dynamic braking system and getting our pretty rear brake led/lights to work like the canadian/european versions.
2. messing w/the other lighting settings and figuring out which lights i can have on w/DRL
3. other random fun settings that hopefully won't brick my car's ecu
i'll follow up to this thread later when i have my laptop w/the codes in it.
Here's a list of the mods i've done myself (okeey did the harder jobs like VIM and seatbelt chimes, etc)
1. DRL = city lights only (leds above fog lamps)
2. Remote window up via fob
3. European double-flash hazards
To Dos:
1. Messing w/the Dynamic braking system and getting our pretty rear brake led/lights to work like the canadian/european versions.
2. messing w/the other lighting settings and figuring out which lights i can have on w/DRL
3. other random fun settings that hopefully won't brick my car's ecu

i'll follow up to this thread later when i have my laptop w/the codes in it.
I had the Euro Blinkers where they blink 2 times verses once
One touch window up from the window button
Fob window up.
They were the only codes that I could get done.
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First successful coding today!
I managed to get NCSExpert working today thanks to some info from minimechusa. I've backed up a couple of modules and changed one. Remote closing windows now works. I also coded for doors unlocking on key removal, but haven't tested it. I may be able to answer very simple questions now.
I am also ready to change the module for 1 touch up, but it sounds like it won't work without NCS Dummy. The spreadsheets list FH_MAUT_ZU_ACTIV_FAT and FH_MAUT_ZU_ACTIV_BFT but they don't exist in my trace file. I was thinking FH_MAUT_ZU_FAT_ENABLE and FH_MAUT_ZU_BFT_ENABLE were the lines which would work. Minimechusa, did you try these?
I was also wondering how to access the FRM2 module. It is not on my drop down list.
Kevdog
I am also ready to change the module for 1 touch up, but it sounds like it won't work without NCS Dummy. The spreadsheets list FH_MAUT_ZU_ACTIV_FAT and FH_MAUT_ZU_ACTIV_BFT but they don't exist in my trace file. I was thinking FH_MAUT_ZU_FAT_ENABLE and FH_MAUT_ZU_BFT_ENABLE were the lines which would work. Minimechusa, did you try these?
I was also wondering how to access the FRM2 module. It is not on my drop down list.
Kevdog
Some coding progress, some setbacks
sorry about the lack of updates. it seems that most of the mods that worked on the R56 work on the R58.
I did the DRL mods but reverted back since i plan to get the updated Fog lights/Xenon DRLs that mini just released this month
I never go auto up for windows to work
I did the DRL mods but reverted back since i plan to get the updated Fog lights/Xenon DRLs that mini just released this month

I never go auto up for windows to work
FH_MAUT_ZU_FAT_ENABLE and FH_MAUT_ZU_BFT_ENABLE (both aktiv) in the FRM module. Today I coded and tested. IT WORKS!
"Auto unlock on key removal" is also working now! My coding for the rest of the day is starting to go wrong. I tried to get the "open doors interrupt window" disabled using FH_TUERAUF_STOP_MAUT_3R in FRM but it did not work. I *JUST* tried adding $5AA to VO to enable the rear fog, but that does not appear to work either. I will let that one brew overnight. If it doesn't work tomorrow morning I will remove it. I also defaulted CAS and FRM, and still not working.
Last edited by Kevdog; Aug 4, 2013 at 06:19 AM.
If you are still trying to get this to work try:
FH_MAUT_ZU_FAT_ENABLE and FH_MAUT_ZU_BFT_ENABLE (both aktiv) in the FRM module. Today I coded and tested. IT WORKS!
It behaves slightly strange because it seems like the car has to be running to 1-touch up. If I turn off the car and remove the key I still have to hold it.
"Auto unlock on key removal" is also working now! My coding for the rest of the day is starting to go wrong. I tried to get the "open doors interrupt window" disabled using FH_TUERAUF_STOP_MAUT_3R in FRM but it did not work. I *JUST* tried adding $5AA to VO to enable the rear fog, but that does not appear to work either. I will let that one brew overnight. If it doesn't work tomorrow morning I will remove it. I also defaulted CAS and FRM, and still not working.
FH_MAUT_ZU_FAT_ENABLE and FH_MAUT_ZU_BFT_ENABLE (both aktiv) in the FRM module. Today I coded and tested. IT WORKS!
"Auto unlock on key removal" is also working now! My coding for the rest of the day is starting to go wrong. I tried to get the "open doors interrupt window" disabled using FH_TUERAUF_STOP_MAUT_3R in FRM but it did not work. I *JUST* tried adding $5AA to VO to enable the rear fog, but that does not appear to work either. I will let that one brew overnight. If it doesn't work tomorrow morning I will remove it. I also defaulted CAS and FRM, and still not working.
NEW PROJECT/GOAL: Brake Force Display on my 2013 Coupe 
Btw, has anyone seen any info on if our USA Mini's have the Dynamic Braking System? The 2011 press release for the Cooper S mentions this in the european areas ( http://www.topspeed.com/cars/mini/20...s-ar92658.html ) but i have not seen it mentioned on the USA site. I would imagine its prob a piece thats on all models but just needs to be turned on??
currently am reading my FRM.TRC file to see what BFD related settings are in there. I plan to then translate each setting/mention in the file and then start tinkering with it and my mini. I guess the question is, how does one see if its working? i guess i may have to get my GoPro setup on the bumper after all
i'll be sure to post updates as i get them/make them.

Btw, has anyone seen any info on if our USA Mini's have the Dynamic Braking System? The 2011 press release for the Cooper S mentions this in the european areas ( http://www.topspeed.com/cars/mini/20...s-ar92658.html ) but i have not seen it mentioned on the USA site. I would imagine its prob a piece thats on all models but just needs to be turned on??
currently am reading my FRM.TRC file to see what BFD related settings are in there. I plan to then translate each setting/mention in the file and then start tinkering with it and my mini. I guess the question is, how does one see if its working? i guess i may have to get my GoPro setup on the bumper after all

i'll be sure to post updates as i get them/make them.
Last edited by seamonkey420; Aug 4, 2013 at 01:11 PM. Reason: more details!!
Updates to BFD project:
Some BMW owners have found settings to enable this in their cars and i may try their setting recommendations to see if can get it working.
here's the thread for future reference
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=500751
Some BMW owners have found settings to enable this in their cars and i may try their setting recommendations to see if can get it working.

here's the thread for future reference
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=500751
No problem
All of this coding is helping me understand more of the car's quirks. Here's the complete deal on auto windows. It works while the car is running. If it's running, and you open the driver side door, you have to hold it. Passenger side still autos. As soon as you close the door it will auto. Same thing happens on passenger side. No auto with door open, closed driver side autos. With car off, I cannot auto at any time on either side.
My rear fogs really ate me up! Did not get much sleep last night, but got it working today. I had to re-code all of the progress I made because I had to default the modules. I can't believe how far I've got up the NCS/coding ladder in three days! For anyone new to coding, if you have to do a fog light retro. or anything added to the VO, do that before regular changes. Second hint would be to backup your modules before changes, AND backup your mods. Backing up my mods made re-coding much quicker.
Last edited by Kevdog; Aug 5, 2013 at 11:38 PM. Reason: To add more details
So far no luck. The settings i changed last night to try to get BFD enabled basically disabled my taillights when my lights were on so i instantly backed out the settings.
However, tonight i am going to be trying a few of the settings i've seen others claim to have worked (but of course they have no videos of what it looks like).
i'll post those BFD settings i plan to modify. my biggest prob/challenge will be testing them out and finding out if they are working. i get my JCW Alta Exhaust installed tomorrow and will do a two for one video of the exhaust and if BFD is working or not
updates tomorrow!
However, tonight i am going to be trying a few of the settings i've seen others claim to have worked (but of course they have no videos of what it looks like).
i'll post those BFD settings i plan to modify. my biggest prob/challenge will be testing them out and finding out if they are working. i get my JCW Alta Exhaust installed tomorrow and will do a two for one video of the exhaust and if BFD is working or notupdates tomorrow!
I was actually talking about the auto windows code.
Anyone feel like experimenting?
Since my NCS coding is complete, I've been searching for other things I can tweak. One change which I believe should be doable without an ECU update, is allowing the rear spoiler to be under complete control of the user (manual mode). IE if you put it up, it does not go down until you put it down. I've read reports of owners having it recoded to to be in manual mode like this thread:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...urned-off.html
Other owners have purchased the JCW Spoiler and have had the spoiler disabled like in this thread:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...spoiler-5.html
I think I figured out the latter. In the SPEG module I found six references to the spoiler.
AKTIVER_HECKSPOILER Active rear spoiler aktiv
GESCHW_SELBSTTEST_SPOILER Speed self test spoiler wert_01
SELBSTTEST_SPOILER Self test spoiler wert_01
SPOILER_WIEDERHOLSPERRE Spoiler repeat wert_06
TASTER_SPOILER Spoiler button wert_01
VERFAHRZEIT_SPOILER Spoiler travel time wert_06
The middle is my Google translation of the lines in my trace file. So, JCW Spoiler owners probably have:
AKTIVER_HECKSPOILER Active rear spoiler (set to) nicht_aktiv
I just don't know where to begin in finding the manual setting. Jimmyselix, wanna get geeky on this one?
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...urned-off.html
Other owners have purchased the JCW Spoiler and have had the spoiler disabled like in this thread:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...spoiler-5.html
I think I figured out the latter. In the SPEG module I found six references to the spoiler.
AKTIVER_HECKSPOILER Active rear spoiler aktiv
GESCHW_SELBSTTEST_SPOILER Speed self test spoiler wert_01
SELBSTTEST_SPOILER Self test spoiler wert_01
SPOILER_WIEDERHOLSPERRE Spoiler repeat wert_06
TASTER_SPOILER Spoiler button wert_01
VERFAHRZEIT_SPOILER Spoiler travel time wert_06
The middle is my Google translation of the lines in my trace file. So, JCW Spoiler owners probably have:
AKTIVER_HECKSPOILER Active rear spoiler (set to) nicht_aktiv
I just don't know where to begin in finding the manual setting. Jimmyselix, wanna get geeky on this one?
Updates on my NCS coding experiments:
been toying w/getting folding mirrors to close via fob/automatically but have not had any success. i guess it really isn't controlled via ecu
bfd; again i have no idea how to get this going; been messing w/a few of the BFD values in the FRM and CAS but have a few times disabled my lights completely. ALWAYS BACKUP YOUR CAS/FRM before edits and also always TEST all main features after coding (ie brake lights, tail lights, blinkers, headlights, fog lights, etc).
however i have added the auto unlock via fob removal and also holding Start/Stop button to eject/autounlock. i still have to push the keyfob in to release it though.
one thing i have noticed and am trying to resolve; follow me home lighting doesn't seem to be working for me w/the fog light lid DRL mods. anyone know which values relate to the lights used for follow me home lights? (follow me home lighting is when you lock your car and the xenons stay on for 30secs or whatever setting you set, is part of comfort access). Search and one will find!
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ml#post3675874
anywho, i'll post more updates as i tinker. i'll also post the values i used to set these since they are a little diff than R56.
been toying w/getting folding mirrors to close via fob/automatically but have not had any success. i guess it really isn't controlled via ecu
bfd; again i have no idea how to get this going; been messing w/a few of the BFD values in the FRM and CAS but have a few times disabled my lights completely. ALWAYS BACKUP YOUR CAS/FRM before edits and also always TEST all main features after coding (ie brake lights, tail lights, blinkers, headlights, fog lights, etc).

however i have added the auto unlock via fob removal and also holding Start/Stop button to eject/autounlock. i still have to push the keyfob in to release it though.
one thing i have noticed and am trying to resolve; follow me home lighting doesn't seem to be working for me w/the fog light lid DRL mods. anyone know which values relate to the lights used for follow me home lights? (follow me home lighting is when you lock your car and the xenons stay on for 30secs or whatever setting you set, is part of comfort access). Search and one will find!
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ml#post3675874
anywho, i'll post more updates as i tinker. i'll also post the values i used to set these since they are a little diff than R56.
Last edited by seamonkey420; Nov 10, 2013 at 09:34 AM. Reason: added link!
Anyone figure out the spoiler yet? Would be nice if it would stay where I put it. Half way and then up and down from there. I can get it to do that now till the car is turn off and restarted.
Oh and has anyone figured a code to auto Sport mode on and traction mode off?
Oh and has anyone figured a code to auto Sport mode on and traction mode off?
Im looking to get into the NCS Expert Coding in my 2013 R58. In the R56 forums, the guy gave a tutorial using this cable:
http://www.ecutool.com/productshow.a...ortsid=&sorts=
But the description says it only works up to 2008 models. Will this work on my 13'?
http://www.ecutool.com/productshow.a...ortsid=&sorts=
But the description says it only works up to 2008 models. Will this work on my 13'?


