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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mikeg4572
Did you notice any performance increase?
Feels like responds faster but at later RPM... If it makes any sense, I can tell you I love the sound at regular speed... I made this video but one handed was a little difficult a bit crappy, but here ya go!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIDM1UR4btM

and some more pictures.

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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 07:17 AM
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The piping looks slightly bigger; is stock piping 2.25" and the Milltek 2.5"? The tips look fantastic, I really dig those! Thanks for posting the video; I can actually hear the exhaust tone! That never happens with the stock exhaust, it's silent! LOL
 
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 07:21 AM
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I had heard there would be no 'burble' with the Turbo (because of how it 'uses' the exhaust). Seems to be accurate. No pops or burble after letting off the accelerator, right?
 
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Red Scooter
I had heard there would be no 'burble' with the Turbo (because of how it 'uses' the exhaust). Seems to be accurate. No pops or burble after letting off the accelerator, right?
Right...But I have not pushed the car to the limit, is virtually new so I am waititng to loosen up a little I hope to have it ready to go by April 28 my first track/learning day

Tonight I will try to get a better sound bite.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 10:52 AM
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I know the exhaust is expensive @$900.00, but you can see the quality for sure and it does sound GREAT
 
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 01:45 PM
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We got ours, and are in the middle of testing. I had it on for the drive to and from Vegas, and those who heard it in Vegas liked it.

I will post the numbers from our testing once we have it all complete.

I also have a full how-to just about ready to go - that down pipe is a pain!

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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 05:59 PM
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what wheels are those on the first pic
 
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Old Mar 31, 2007 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by baronvonmini
what wheels are those on the first pic
I think Racing Dynamics Pro1.. not 100%
 
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Old Mar 31, 2007 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by MotorMouth
There is something strangely mesmerizing about that picture...
Somebody is a fan of HDR photography. Photomatix? Nice shot! Very ethereal.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 06:06 PM
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Somebody is a fan of HDR photography. Photomatix? Nice shot! Very ethereal.
yep.. is like an addiction..I use mostly photomatix but I like artizen and finish on CS2...
Thank you.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by diablito
yep.. is like an addiction..I use mostly photomatix but I like artizen and finish on CS2...
Thank you.
Well its working for ya! Keep up the good work.

Sean
 
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Old Apr 2, 2007 | 02:16 PM
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How much louder is it from stock? Any noticeable drone at highway speeds?
 
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Old Apr 3, 2007 | 08:45 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQiZKlIeCKU

This clip is not on the hwy but you can get the idea...the shap rattle is my elbow rubbing on the usps priority mail tape I used to hold the cam to the arm rest.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2007 | 10:16 AM
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Is something wrong with the camera or is your lights changing color?
 
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 09:45 AM
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Here is a link to a 3rd-party review and test of the Milltek system. I think you will find it interesting and it looks like the reviewer was pleased and surprised about the results. -Pete, Stratmosphere. 1.866.533.1777

http://www.millteksport.com/media/images/press/28.pdf
 
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 10:29 AM
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nice writeup
 
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 08:05 PM
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Hello new to this forum, but not new to FI cars. What kind of dyno was used in this test? I would like to see the uncorrected # on the dyno.. Not SAE correction, wich is exactly what that is a correction. I am going to buy this exhaust for my wifes car and do a base and after dyno runs on uncorrected #'s on a dyno dynamics dyno to see what the real deal is with this exhuast. I then will take it to a mustang dyno and finsh with the DJ dyno. All runs will be uncorrected rwhp NO at the crank hp. Uncorrected (baro and temp) are the only things inputed in the dyno. You will all then see, that all the numbers will be off any where from 20 to 40 hp, with the Dyno Jet recording the highest. Every car is diffrent and some will have more power than other (this has be proven). I would really love to see the A/F chart. This turbo is very small and IMO a 3" exhuast would be overkill. So I really belive in the exhaust. Once I buy this and I will start a new thread on the gains I recieve from this product, with A/F chart, and comparison with all the other dynos. Sorry for jumping around but I think it fair for forum member to really get the true HP gains at the rear wheels not the hyped up crank numbers. All in all I think its an excellent item and worth the money, however a strait down pipe should be in the works with no cats.. cats = -power. One other thing the bigger the wheels the less rwhp you produce. I once loss 20hp from going from a 18" to 19" wheel on my 350Z.
 

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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by krut
I found it! This is how you do a dyno run (No correction) The use of a mustang dyno is perfect as they tend to read a bit lower than other dynoes.

159@ RWHP is pretty strong IMO
 
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 08:32 PM
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And the car only had 300 miles on it when we did that dyno run. It's now got 2200 miles - I'm getting ready to have Eric put an exhaust on it - I'm debating if I should wait until after the dragon though....
 
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by krut
And the car only had 300 miles on it when we did that dyno run. It's now got 2200 miles - I'm getting ready to have Eric put an exhaust on it - I'm debating if I should wait until after the dragon though....
I would wait till you got back just incase there are some A/F issues. Most of the cars that I have tuned have very lean A/F when we installed bigger exhaust. Thats when a piggyback or reflash would be needed. I hope thats not the case. I yet to see an A/F chart for a car that has been dynoed with a bigger exhaust (2007MCS).
 
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by eagletangogreen
I found it! This is how you do a dyno run (No correction) The use of a mustang dyno is perfect as they tend to read a bit lower than other dynoes.

159@ RWHP is pretty strong IMO

Pssssst...Mini's are FWD.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by SHRTSTAK
Pssssst...Mini's are FWD.

Ha! you got me
 
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 09:00 PM
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No worries

Enjoy your wife's car. Perhaps you sell the Z when you realize how much fun Mini's can be.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by eagletangogreen
All runs will be uncorrected rwhp NO at the crank hp. Uncorrected (baro and temp) are the only things inputed in the dyno. You will all then see, that all the numbers will be off any where from 20 to 40 hp, with the Dyno Jet recording the highest.
When you input barometric and temp into the dyno, guess what? It's probably correcting to atmospheric, usually an SAE correction. Dynojet, Mustang, and DynaPack all display their figures as "at the wheel". I think it's Dyno Dynamics that does the "at the crack" guesstimate, IIRC.

I don't see a need to go and prove that one brand of dyno reads different than others; you said it yourself, it's been proven. Each brand uses slight variations of the formulae to calculate torque, and then horsepower, from their measurement apparatus.


I would really love to see the A/F chart. This turbo is very small and IMO a 3" exhuast would be overkill.
ficcion posted his dyno chart that has a reasonably representative example of AFR for the R56 MCS. If you've read my exhaust thread, I've noted that the AFR's did not change in the slightest between stock exhaust and my fabricated 3" turbo-back. There's no reason for the AFR to change as the MINI's ECU is Mass-Air-Flow plus several levels of MAP and also using an LSU 4.9.

Yes I agree the turbo is very small. 3" tubing may be on the large side, however I still have yet to see any solid evidence that slow velocity post-turbine exit is detrimental. Do you have any information regarding this?

I look forward to seeing your research later on.
Cheers,
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Ryephile
When you input barometric and temp into the dyno, guess what? It's probably correcting to atmospheric, usually an SAE correction. Dynojet, Mustang, and DynaPack all display their figures as "at the wheel". I think it's Dyno Dynamics that does the "at the crack" guesstimate, IIRC.

I don't see a need to go and prove that one brand of dyno reads different than others; you said it yourself, it's been proven. Each brand uses slight variations of the formulae to calculate torque, and then horsepower, from their measurement apparatus.




ficcion posted his dyno chart that has a reasonably representative example of AFR for the R56 MCS. If you've read my exhaust thread, I've noted that the AFR's did not change in the slightest between stock exhaust and my fabricated 3" turbo-back. There's no reason for the AFR to change as the MINI's ECU is Mass-Air-Flow plus several levels of MAP and also using an LSU 4.9.

Yes I agree the turbo is very small. 3" tubing may be on the large side, however I still have yet to see any solid evidence that slow velocity post-turbine exit is detrimental. Do you have any information regarding this?

I look forward to seeing your research later on.
Cheers,
Ryan

Ryan I agree with all of the above 100% you right on the money.

As far as the 3" the only reaserch I know of is with force induction 350Z's. What we noticed is once we went pass 11psi the 3" came into play. As we have seen anywhere from 20 to 40 whp.

So with that said I belive once we start turning up the boost on this car is when we will see the 3" exhaust shine.

Your exhaust set up would be incredible with a straight test pipe (3" down pipes with no cats) there is major restriction even with high flow cat.

I love FI cars and this little one has much potential.

Ryan could you please post or PM me your boost chart from your dyno. I would like to see if this thing is spiking, holding, or lossing boost accross the RPM range?

What was the max PSI you saw on your runs?

What is stock boost?

DO you know what this motor stock compression is?

IMO with the right tunning and bolt on parts and more boost 300 whp is going to be easy... The question is how long can the stock internals handle it for?

If we are seeing 160whp with just an exhaust, with no tunning, no added boost, no larger intercooler, bigger injectors, no upgraded fuel pump, no fuel return line ect.. You see what I am getting at? I see 300whp in a year being the norm. Keep your fingers crossed
 
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