RMW 1:28sxxx at Streets of Willow
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I know....remember, that's one thing I was considering to quiet mine down (actually had a whole JCW sitting in the garage). we looked at the pipe size differences and .25" is enough to complicate things.
helps on the way for the race exhaust
The Cayman that you are comparing to is bone stock: engine, brakes and suspension on street tires. The Porsche has about 245 whp with a weight of 3200 lbs (10 gallons of fuel, oil, water and a 170 lbs driver). This gives it a power to weight ratio of 13.061 lbs per whp.
Jan's GP has a weight wet with driver of about 2675 lbs and 265 whp, giving it a power to weight ratio of 10.09. Plus the fact that the GP is on Hoosier R compounds. It's easy to see that Jan's time is about what one would expect with a driver with very little experience. Oh, and not to mention that the track has been repaved in places since the Cayman drove. So what we have is apples to oranges.
Something else to think about, the Cayman is about a $60,000 auto that if traded in would hold a high percentage of its valve. Jan's GP is probably also a $50,000 (or more) auto that would be hard to sell for any amount.
A side note, looking at the Cayman drivers foot work it's first rate; just what you'd expect from a pro.
So what car would you rather have? I'll take the Porsche.
With the Porsche we have lots of world class tuners with state of the art shops such as RUF, Tech Art, and 9ff. With the MINI the world class tuner works out of his house, enough said.
Jan's GP has a weight wet with driver of about 2675 lbs and 265 whp, giving it a power to weight ratio of 10.09. Plus the fact that the GP is on Hoosier R compounds. It's easy to see that Jan's time is about what one would expect with a driver with very little experience. Oh, and not to mention that the track has been repaved in places since the Cayman drove. So what we have is apples to oranges.
Something else to think about, the Cayman is about a $60,000 auto that if traded in would hold a high percentage of its valve. Jan's GP is probably also a $50,000 (or more) auto that would be hard to sell for any amount.
A side note, looking at the Cayman drivers foot work it's first rate; just what you'd expect from a pro.
So what car would you rather have? I'll take the Porsche.
With the Porsche we have lots of world class tuners with state of the art shops such as RUF, Tech Art, and 9ff. With the MINI the world class tuner works out of his house, enough said.
Wes-
No S**T !! I don't get it!!! I drove the 2.0L stroker and would buy it in a second - if it was ever for sale!!
No S**T !! I don't get it!!! I drove the 2.0L stroker and would buy it in a second - if it was ever for sale!!
strange..... but true
Oh and I forgot to mention that I was there the day after Jan ran on the track and these newly paved areas were slicker than snot compared to the older areas of the track compared to how they were before. It really made turn two a new experience.
but let's not take away cheese dawgs only threads he has left to grasp on..... it has to be extremely discouraging that no matter how hard he tries to spit on the fire..... we continue to go faster each time out....
when his hero couldn't match times of our street cars with their race cars you would think reality would set in.....
then again.........................maybe not
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From: bryan tx
Let's just show how fast this time of 1:28 really is:
Not fast enough Teiichi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIhXlhIopR0
Not fast enough Teiichi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIhXlhIopR0
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From: bryan tx
The Cayman that you are comparing to is bone stock: engine, brakes and suspension on street tires. The Porsche has about 245 whp with a weight of 3200 lbs (10 gallons of fuel, oil, water and a 170 lbs driver). This gives it a power to weight ratio of 13.061 lbs per whp.
Jan's GP has a weight wet with driver of about 2675 lbs and 265 whp, giving it a power to weight ratio of 10.09. Plus the fact that the GP is on Hoosier R compounds. It's easy to see that Jan's time is about what one would expect with a driver with very little experience. Oh, and not to mention that the track has been repaved in places since the Cayman drove. So what we have is apples to oranges.
Something else to think about, the Cayman is about a $60,000 auto that if traded in would hold a high percentage of its valve. Jan's GP is probably also a $50,000 (or more) auto that would be hard to sell for any amount.
A side note, looking at the Cayman drivers foot work it's first rate; just what you'd expect from a pro.
So what car would you rather have? I'll take the Porsche.
With the Porsche we have lots of world class tuners with state of the art shops such as RUF, Tech Art, and 9ff. With the MINI the world class tuner works out of his house, enough said.
Jan's GP has a weight wet with driver of about 2675 lbs and 265 whp, giving it a power to weight ratio of 10.09. Plus the fact that the GP is on Hoosier R compounds. It's easy to see that Jan's time is about what one would expect with a driver with very little experience. Oh, and not to mention that the track has been repaved in places since the Cayman drove. So what we have is apples to oranges.
Something else to think about, the Cayman is about a $60,000 auto that if traded in would hold a high percentage of its valve. Jan's GP is probably also a $50,000 (or more) auto that would be hard to sell for any amount.
A side note, looking at the Cayman drivers foot work it's first rate; just what you'd expect from a pro.
So what car would you rather have? I'll take the Porsche.
With the Porsche we have lots of world class tuners with state of the art shops such as RUF, Tech Art, and 9ff. With the MINI the world class tuner works out of his house, enough said.
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exactly.... listen to the tires slide every time the car hits them
but let's not take away cheese dawgs only threads he has left to grasp on..... it has to be extremely discouraging that no matter how hard he tries to spit on the fire..... we continue to go faster each time out....
when his hero couldn't match times of our street cars with their race cars you would think reality would set in.....
then again.........................maybe not
but let's not take away cheese dawgs only threads he has left to grasp on..... it has to be extremely discouraging that no matter how hard he tries to spit on the fire..... we continue to go faster each time out....
when his hero couldn't match times of our street cars with their race cars you would think reality would set in.....
then again.........................maybe not
it's a well known fact you have doubted the times even though they have been proven over and over. Having shilled for LDG and dmh it's quite comical that many of their customers are now coming to RMW to get their cars set up so they can keep up with the other Mini's on the track.
It's also well known that Turner Motorsports was out there and couldn't run it in their race cars. The guys from Redline were there when they ran and told me so. He was even more amazed at the fact that I had 2 track days at the time..... so what is it? Faster cars or I'm a better driver than a professional?
times are changing....
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it's a well known fact you have doubted the times even though they have been proven over and over. Having shilled for LDG and dmh it's quite comical that many of their customers are now coming to RMW to get their cars set up so they can keep up with the other Mini's on the track.
It's also well known that Turner Motorsports was out there and couldn't run it in their race cars. The guys from Redline were there when they ran and told me so. He was even more amazed at the fact that I had 2 track days at the time..... so what is it? Faster cars or I'm a better driver than a professional?
times are changing....
It's also well known that Turner Motorsports was out there and couldn't run it in their race cars. The guys from Redline were there when they ran and told me so. He was even more amazed at the fact that I had 2 track days at the time..... so what is it? Faster cars or I'm a better driver than a professional?
times are changing....
Per the new NAM rules, you are out of line with continuing to grap on this thread. You made whatever point it is that you wanted to make here and now should zip it. We get it....you don't like Jan. Move on roach/cheesewhiz or whatever your nom du jour is
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You a NAM mod? It's laughable to have you stating the rules "Nationally known insulterer" ... lol.