RMW 1:28sxxx at Streets of Willow
well....keep in mind, he was probably on street rubber (not to take away from Jan, but, that's worth a couple seconds at least).
5 track days
Somebody needs to make a smiley like that!!
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I suspect a professional driver would gain more time on the track than better tires. But I also suspect his stock tires are quite sticky.
I need LSD !!!!!! He did a good job driving even though his foot work looked a bit too out of balance. Again Jan, great work ! I am wondering to know what times you could achieve with a couple more track days.
I reckon Flanery could run 1:24/25 in my car
keep in mind, he's a hotshoe but a drift king. diff style of driving
That is correct. Just looks like he could take it easier and still do good at some points. Anyhow, great driving.
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The Cayman that you are comparing to is bone stock: engine, brakes and suspension on street tires. The Porsche has about 245 whp with a weight of 3200 lbs (10 gallons of fuel, oil, water and a 170 lbs driver). This gives it a power to weight ratio of 13.061 lbs per whp.
Jan's GP has a weight wet with driver of about 2675 lbs and 265 whp, giving it a power to weight ratio of 10.09. Plus the fact that the GP is on Hoosier R compounds. It's easy to see that Jan's time is about what one would expect with a driver with very little experience. Oh, and not to mention that the track has been repaved in places since the Cayman drove. So what we have is apples to oranges.
Something else to think about, the Cayman is about a $60,000 auto that if traded in would hold a high percentage of its valve. Jan's GP is probably also a $50,000 (or more) auto that would be hard to sell for any amount.
A side note, looking at the Cayman drivers foot work it's first rate; just what you'd expect from a pro.
So what car would you rather have? I'll take the Porsche.
With the Porsche we have lots of world class tuners with state of the art shops such as RUF, Tech Art, and 9ff. With the MINI the world class tuner works out of his house, enough said.
Jan's GP has a weight wet with driver of about 2675 lbs and 265 whp, giving it a power to weight ratio of 10.09. Plus the fact that the GP is on Hoosier R compounds. It's easy to see that Jan's time is about what one would expect with a driver with very little experience. Oh, and not to mention that the track has been repaved in places since the Cayman drove. So what we have is apples to oranges.
Something else to think about, the Cayman is about a $60,000 auto that if traded in would hold a high percentage of its valve. Jan's GP is probably also a $50,000 (or more) auto that would be hard to sell for any amount.
A side note, looking at the Cayman drivers foot work it's first rate; just what you'd expect from a pro.
So what car would you rather have? I'll take the Porsche.
With the Porsche we have lots of world class tuners with state of the art shops such as RUF, Tech Art, and 9ff. With the MINI the world class tuner works out of his house, enough said.
Last edited by emmathecheesedog; Jun 10, 2008 at 11:50 AM. Reason: It is an S
The Cayman that you are comparing to is bone stock: engine, brakes and suspension on street tires. The Porsche has about 245 whp with a weight of 3200 lbs (10 gallons of fuel, oil, water and a 170 lbs driver). This gives it a power to weight ratio of 12.80 lbs per whp.
Jan's GP has a weight wet with driver of about 2675 lbs and 265 whp, giving it a power to weight ratio of 10.09. Plus the fact that the GP is on Hoosier R compounds. It's easy to see that Jan's time is about what one would expect with a driver with very little experience. Oh, and not to mention that the track has been repaved in places since the Cayman drove. So what we have is apples to oranges.
Something else to think about, the Cayman is about a $50,000 auto that if traded in would hold a high percentage of its valve. Jan's GP is probably also a $50,000 (or more) auto that would be hard to sell for any amount.
A side note, looking at the Cayman drivers foot work it's first rate; just what you'd expect from a pro.
So what car would you rather have? I'll take the Porsche.
With the Porsche we have lots of world class tuners with state of the art shops such as RUF, Tech Art, and 9ff. With the MINI the world class tuner works out of his house, enough said.
Jan's GP has a weight wet with driver of about 2675 lbs and 265 whp, giving it a power to weight ratio of 10.09. Plus the fact that the GP is on Hoosier R compounds. It's easy to see that Jan's time is about what one would expect with a driver with very little experience. Oh, and not to mention that the track has been repaved in places since the Cayman drove. So what we have is apples to oranges.
Something else to think about, the Cayman is about a $50,000 auto that if traded in would hold a high percentage of its valve. Jan's GP is probably also a $50,000 (or more) auto that would be hard to sell for any amount.
A side note, looking at the Cayman drivers foot work it's first rate; just what you'd expect from a pro.
So what car would you rather have? I'll take the Porsche.
With the Porsche we have lots of world class tuners with state of the art shops such as RUF, Tech Art, and 9ff. With the MINI the world class tuner works out of his house, enough said.
jealous a Mini with a driver of no experience can do it and your dedicated track car won't?
just think.... for less than what it cost to buy the caymen.. you can have a faster car than what your little porsche with a pro driver can do..... pretty good huh
Last edited by Revolution Mini Works; Jun 10, 2008 at 11:11 AM.
don't get me wrong, I think the Caymen is the best looking Porsche out there
at the end of the day... you have a PROFESSIONAL driver which means more than any hp figure etc.... either you can drive it or you can't
apparently I can drive mine just good enough
Mine is a full service street car... I drove it there and home.... even with the A/C on
mine also has stock brakes, lines, pads etc
did I even mention stock brake fluid?
at the end of the day... you have a PROFESSIONAL driver which means more than any hp figure etc.... either you can drive it or you can't
apparently I can drive mine just good enough
Mine is a full service street car... I drove it there and home.... even with the A/C on
mine also has stock brakes, lines, pads etc
did I even mention stock brake fluid?
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emmathecheesedog, the car was a Cayman S (according to the notes and comments with the video). So change your numbers to 295hp at 3200lbs for a power to weight ratio of 10.8 lbs per whp. Not so different now. And add another $10K to the cost.
And doesn't the Porsche have lower drag, RWD, larger tires, and a more favorable weight distribution?
I think the point is, is that the stroker is one strong motor.
And doesn't the Porsche have lower drag, RWD, larger tires, and a more favorable weight distribution?
I think the point is, is that the stroker is one strong motor.
Last edited by astrochex; Jun 10, 2008 at 11:37 AM.
emmathecheesedog, the car was a Cayman S (according to the notes and comments with the video). So change your numbers to 295hp at 3200lbs for a power to weight ratio of 10.8 lbs per whp. Not so different now. And add another $10K to the cost.
And doesn't the Porsche have lower drag, RWD, larger tires, and a more favorable weight distribution?
I think the point is, is that the stroker is one strong motor.
And doesn't the Porsche have lower drag, RWD, larger tires, and a more favorable weight distribution?
I think the point is, is that the stroker is one strong motor.
Paul...
he has never been about real facts... it's all about the dig
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Is your car CARB legal in CA? The Porsche is.
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Besides K&N filters and Miltek, what is?
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it's already passes smog the way it is in this form
for me to roll into a referee station it would require about 40min to put the stock exhaust back on
for me to roll into a referee station it would require about 40min to put the stock exhaust back on