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Old Jan 20, 2013 | 05:16 PM
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After getting inside the Paceman JCW today at the auto show, I'm not impressed. I feel like I don't even know who the buyer market they are trying to bring in. Now the Countryman ALL4 JCW was pretty cool. I understand the buyers market with the R60. But I thought it was going to be better with the designs they talked about. The 0-60 was sad, the price for it was sad, and the only thing I thought that looked good was the boot of the Paceman. Anyone else got a chance to see the Paceman? I'd like to know your thoughts!
 
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Old Jan 20, 2013 | 05:33 PM
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If I was willing to go back to a two door MINI it would be the R56, not a Paceman....
 
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Old Jan 20, 2013 | 10:11 PM
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I'm very happy with my CM and if I was gonna go smaller I'd just go back to MINI convertible.

I don't tow around a lot of people but I like having 4 doors.

Something that bothers me about the paceman are all those badges on the back..."MINI' "PACEMAN", and "COOPER"...it's like too much. Also the sloped back.

That being said I still would like to see one in person.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 06:23 AM
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I was at the Detroit show as well. Went there to see the Paceman specifically. I personally loved it. I like the style over the countryman and being 6'6", I love the longer doors. I was a little concerned about the loss of headroom, but it's still ok.

The only thing I don't like about it is the rear visibility, that being said. I'm ordering one as soon as I can.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by SunnySideUp

Something that bothers me about the paceman are all those badges on the back..."MINI' "PACEMAN", and "COOPER"...it's like too much.
The badging is probably the last thing I'd get hung up on. Other than the MINI wings on the boot - the rest can easily be removed with 20 minutes, a hair drier, and some dental floss..
 
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 04:19 PM
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Mini USA is live with the builder. My dealer also called me and said I can order it but only at MSRP. I will be waiting until at least the car buying service discounts are included (PenFed, Navy Credit Union etc). The average discount with the buying service is only $1500 with the Mini but at least it isn't MSRP.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 05:07 PM
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If I wanted a bigger MINI it would absolutely be the Paceman. To me it looks like a MINI where the Countryman does not.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2013 | 02:21 PM
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If anybody is interested in seeing a Paceman (non JCW) up close and personal, there will be a company demo Paceman at Keeler Motors in Latham, NY (just outside Albany), next Monday, January 28th in the afternoon. No test drives allowed, unfortunately. It will be at New Country MINI in Hartford, CT on Monday, February 4th as well.
 

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Old Jan 24, 2013 | 02:52 PM
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I have mine ordered and it looks like the possible delivery date is March 6 (also my birthday), still waiting for the details to show up in the tracker though.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2013 | 02:55 PM
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I hope yours gets there on your birthday, but I've been told to expect more like the end of March...
 
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Old Jan 24, 2013 | 03:02 PM
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My dealer was able to use one of thier launch allotments for mine, but I'm still waiting on conformation on the delivery date, but I'm hoping.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2013 | 03:06 PM
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Fingers crossed for ya!

What did you order?
 
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Old Jan 24, 2013 | 03:37 PM
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Are you guys paying MSRP?
 
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Old Jan 24, 2013 | 03:44 PM
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I haven't officially placed my order yet, but I will probably end up paying very close to MSRP, I would think. My build is a very basic Justa.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2013 | 04:17 PM
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I think that if I was going to get a paceman I would just get a jcw hatchback. So much better.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2013 | 04:21 PM
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If I didn't already own a track MINI (my 02 R53), I would consider the JCW Paceman.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2013 | 06:57 PM
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Yes, I'm paying MSRP. Not much bargaining power at this point in the game.

I'm getting the S all4 , Starlight Blue and black with the tech and premium2 packages. A few other extras but that's the basics.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2013 | 07:13 PM
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I am going to into the dealers in my area this weekend. But I am in no hurry if I have to pay MSRP. I know it's a new model so I don't blame them. I just took delivery Dec 22 of a 13 Mini Conv from one of the dealers so I hope I get some kind of deal being a repeat customer. Though waiting until summer is not a problem if Mini wants sticker price.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2013 | 01:34 AM
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Based on what happened with other new mini models, I would suggest if you can wait six months you can save yourself at least $1000.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2013 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by shark715
Based on what happened with other new mini models, I would suggest if you can wait six months you can save yourself at least $1000.
Then you have to wage that against how much your current car will depriciate and cost to maintain over 6 months. You may save that much, you may save little.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2013 | 05:15 PM
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Me+Wife+3 dogs...need the head room and 4 doors. Although the Paceman does look cool, I like the CM's big butt!
 
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Old Jan 25, 2013 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Quixter
Yes, I'm paying MSRP. Not much bargaining power at this point in the game.

I'm getting the S all4 , Starlight Blue and black with the tech and premium2 packages. A few other extras but that's the basics.
Make sure you shop around. The two dealers in my region were $1500 below MSRP.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 12:25 PM
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I really want to see a slammed on its nutz paceman or a full rallied out model!
 
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 02:59 PM
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I would sign an order right now for $1300 off MSRP. Carmax offered $21000 for my Countryman so it's sold. Now just have to wait out till a good deal comes along.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 07:58 PM
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No. I just ordered my 2013 CM and wouldn't even consider waiting for a Paceman. I don't like the style at all and I prefer 4 doors. And, considering there isn't much power or speed benefit for what you're losing from the CM...
 
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