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Old Jul 21, 2017 | 02:21 PM
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Hood scoop

Just bought my first Mini Cooper S Coupe and when I got it home I noticed the hood scoop is not functional. I thought I read that it was in a S. Any info would be appreciated.


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Old Jul 21, 2017 | 03:42 PM
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purely cosmetic after the GEN1

you're new .... GEN1 = the first MINI body style and the scoop actually feeds the intercooler .... 2002 thru 2006 <for the hard top> 2007 begins GEN2 ... the body and MOTOR changes ... that scoop is just an ornament
 
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Old Jul 22, 2017 | 07:42 AM
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Thanks

Ok I must've crossed some wires while reading and trying to learn about the Mini's. Greatly appreciate your response.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2017 | 06:16 PM
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You can get open grilles from a couple of vendors that may possibly help keep the scoop from warping due to underbonnet heat, but usually it's non functional as said above.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2017 | 12:31 PM
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Fake scoop!
 
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Old Jul 24, 2017 | 01:01 PM
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All the above are correct, from a certain point of view. It all depends on your definition of "Functional". The Gen 2 scoop is functional, in that it allows some air flow into the engine bay. However, it is non-functional compared to the 1st Gen cars, in which the scoop directly supplied airflow to the intercooler.

If you want a truly non-functional scoop, go check out the 3rd Gen cars... That scoop doesn't even feed air to the engine bay, and the hood is even solid under it!
 
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Old Jul 25, 2017 | 02:19 PM
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my GEN2 scoop inserts have had a couple of tiny holes in them ..... not much air flow thru that to be considered functional. When Spousal unit gets home with her R59 I'll take a picture to explain the point ...

In my 2002 the scoop was 'open' and actually the dealer recommended putting in a screen to prevent debris from getting into the intercooler coils. (I was a very early buyer .... what Navy folks would call a 'plankowner')

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update: scoop insert on our R59 S is about 50% open (cut out sections)
 

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Old Aug 3, 2017 | 06:01 AM
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You can remove the scoop "grille" by just removing a couple of allenhead screws. Doing this opens it up for adding a CAI with an air scoop.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2017 | 07:42 AM
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I took the grill out of the scoop on my R55. I was all ready to make a metal screen replacement but I thought it looked good without anything in the hole. It's been a few years since I did that and I haven't seen any increase of dirt or bugs on the engine.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2017 | 09:57 AM
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And you can make it functional if you want to. https://www.waymotorworks.com/ddmwor...ke-system.html
 
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Old Aug 3, 2017 | 09:58 AM
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And I happen to have one of those for sale too!!
 
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Old Aug 3, 2017 | 07:15 PM
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Good looking Coupe. Welcome aboard.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2017 | 07:53 PM
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Functional scoop options

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And you can make it functional if you want to. https://www.waymotorworks.com/ddmwor...ke-system.html
Thanks for the link. I didn't notice that it had 2 sources for fresh air the first time I looked at it. I find that interesting. It seems the problem with most of this type of fresh air induction is the loss of torque at take off. The duel feed may reduce or eliminate that problem.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2017 | 08:02 PM
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Good looking Coupe. Welcome aboard.
Thanks you. I have been following you and your new family member.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2017 | 08:05 PM
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And I happen to have one of those for sale too!!
Did you notice any loss of torque or any other problems?
 
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Old Aug 4, 2017 | 04:03 AM
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No, can't say that I did honestly. I've seen some posts regarding torque and a CAI, but doesn't make sense to me.
I bought another CAI for my CMS, just didn't see the sense on using only a portion of the DDMWorks RIS.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2017 | 04:24 AM
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I have an AEM intake with the hood scoop duct, and I saw no loss of torque when installed.

I've seen torque loss comments on the forum, too, and most of those comments came from N14 engine owners after installing one of the open style intake kits. I am of the belief that the N14 engine cars are more sensitive to intake torque loss than are the N18 engine cars.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2017 | 08:47 PM
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I drilled about another 20 holes in mine It is open, and there still is some structure left. Just taped up all my paint. But I guess I could have taken it all the way out too
 
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