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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 01:50 PM
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Added some 3M Carbon Fiber









I am pleased with how it turned out...
 
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 02:16 PM
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Looks like it was delivered that way.Q
 
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 02:22 PM
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Looks awesome!
I'm considering this versus the $$ JCW bits. I already have some JCW bits but for the $ it might be worth this option.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 03:56 PM
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As an FYI... I ordered a 24x60 inch roll for $50 online of the 3M scotchprint 1080 vinyl... I had plenty and could also do the mirror caps if I choose to.

My understanding is the 1080 is more of a "wet" look than the Di-Noc and a little less expensive. To do all 4 pieces it took me about 3.5hrs, but I did get quicker with each piece.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 04:05 PM
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Looks Good!
 
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by indymidnight
As an FYI... I ordered a 24x60 inch roll for $50 online of the 3M scotchprint 1080 vinyl... I had plenty and could also do the mirror caps if I choose to.

My understanding is the 1080 is more of a "wet" look than the Di-Noc and a little less expensive. To do all 4 pieces it took me about 3.5hrs, but I did get quicker with each piece.
You care correct sir! On top of that 1080 was designed specifically for car applications while the DI-NOC was for architectural design originally. Car folks just cop-opted it for their own uses. The 1080 is a bit thinner and easier to apply to difficult corners. Smaller weave as well! The DI-NOC does come in matte or gloss now. I much prefer the 1080.

Your car looks great! Great detail. Looks like a factory job!

Here's a couple things I've done in 1080. Sorry for the crappy second pic.



 
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 05:11 PM
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indy,

That turned out great How difficult is it to remove the rear diffuser? Thanks!


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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 05:45 PM
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It is probably "better" to remove the bumper cover and then the apron, but I was able to get if off with some patience. The tabs are very easy... Reach behind and push them out one by one. I started from the middle and worked out. The difficult part for me was the two torx screws on each end which attach to the bumper cover. When facing the rear of the car, the right side has a little less obstruction and therefore easier, so I would try that one first. When you get that, the drivers side becomes a little more accessible.

I didn't have one, but I think a torx key with a 90 degree bend would work as good as anything.

Good luck!
 
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by indymidnight
It is probably "better" to remove the bumper cover and then the apron, but I was able to get if off with some patience. The tabs are very easy... Reach behind and push them out one by one. I started from the middle and worked out. The difficult part for me was the two torx screws on each end which attach to the bumper cover. When facing the rear of the car, the right side has a little less obstruction and therefore easier, so I would try that one first. When you get that, the drivers side becomes a little more accessible.

I didn't have one, but I think a torx key with a 90 degree bend would work as good as anything.

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Thank you! When I one day have my Roadster I will be following you and TerminalV on these mods

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Old Mar 20, 2012 | 08:43 AM
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Nice work guys - that looks fantastic!!

Can you actually wrap something like a wing mirror? I thought it would be too curvy...?
 
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Old Mar 20, 2012 | 09:02 AM
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Looks amazing. This stuff is truly incredible...I wrapped the side marker lenses on my wheel arches, turned out nice.

I did try wrapping my hood scoop which turned out to be too difficult for me to get the wrap in the sharp curves of the opening. I ended up getting the actual JCW scoop.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2012 | 11:01 AM
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You can wrap just about anything... there are some pretty tight compound curves on the diffuser and I was able to get it all to lay flat with no bubbles or creases. I think a big key is the amount of heat applied while not stretching too much... once you get that figured out you can do quite a few items.

I think terminalvelocity even did his side scuttles which are very tight curves...
 
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Old Mar 20, 2012 | 02:42 PM
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Indymidnight is right. Also, 3M makes an adhesive called primer 94 for really hard areas but I haven't used it and it was recommended I don't by the distributer. It makes removal a PIA and isn't really needed. Like Indy said, with a little practice and patience you can wrap about anything without using any harsh glues. The vinyl will take a considerable amount of heat before "warping" but you do have to be careful. Keep fingernails, etc. away.

Here's one of the scuttles. Sorry about the pic. I was playing around with one of those iPhone camera app's. True color shows the detail better.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2012 | 08:05 PM
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I go back and forth on carbon fiber but I have to say that rear diffuser looks amazing. Great work Indy.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2012 | 08:25 PM
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Very nice work guys... looks awesome. So I keep reading about and seeing these vinyl wraps and I am wanting to do it on my mini; I would need practice, so, does it make sense to buy a sheet/roll of some cheaper vinyl material to practice with? Any recommended how tos or videos?

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Old Mar 20, 2012 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by indymidnight
As an FYI... I ordered a 24x60 inch roll for $50 online of the 3M scotchprint 1080 vinyl... I had plenty and could also do the mirror caps if I choose to.

My understanding is the 1080 is more of a "wet" look than the Di-Noc and a little less expensive. To do all 4 pieces it took me about 3.5hrs, but I did get quicker with each piece.
Nice work! I fell in love with 1080 last year and have gotten a little carried away with it since. I've been happy with most of my work thus far but my attempt at mirror caps was in vain.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2012 | 11:12 PM
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I am pleased with how it turned out...
wow looks great.........i been wanting to do my interior parts for a long time was it hard to do the "curvy" parts ?"and did u use a heat gun or hair dryer???
 

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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 07:14 AM
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Any suggestions of where to get the material? I've only really found it on ebay. Any suggestions? I'd like to use a supporter of the forum.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 12:40 PM
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I Googled it and found it on Amazon.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 12:56 PM
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A couple more of both interior pieces... I used a cheap ($15 at Harbor Freight) heat gun. I am not sure about other vinyl and their characteristics to know if it would help to practice or not. There are some videos on YouTube about various application techniques.

The interior pieces were the last two items i tackled and they took me about an hour and a half for the pair.

I purchased the material online at Metro Restyling.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGeekGuy
I Googled it and found it on Amazon.
Those interior pieces look excellent indy!

Metrorestyling.com is great. They sell on amazon as well which is likely who TheGeekGuy found. Another place is called Energy Products Distribution which is having a sale on 1080 right now but I don't believe it's on the site and it's phone order only. If anyone's interested in that place I think I have the number somewhere. I think Metroresytling is great and a one stop shop for all things vinyl. They have the best prices and selection as well. While I would only use 3M personally, they do have their own in house brand of vinyl that they sell that looks very good.

Apologies for any thread Highjack. Just thought I'd add what I know.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 01:18 PM
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Did you have to remove the steering wheel bits or do them on the car?

Thanks for the info above.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by mdsbrain
Did you have to remove the steering wheel bits or do them on the car?

Thanks for the info above.
I did them on the car. It would have been MUCH easier had I removed the parts instead but once you get good enough at it it's really not necessary. As long as you leave enough to tuck/wrap around the edges when cutting it looks like the whole part is wrapped. Everything visible is wrapped. The hardest part was the left steering wheel insert with the volume/phone buttons.

If I were to redo it I would probably remove the parts to save time.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 03:43 PM
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I did them on the car. It would have been MUCH easier had I removed the parts instead but once you get good enough at it it's really not necessary. As long as you leave enough to tuck/wrap around the edges when cutting it looks like the whole part is wrapped. Everything visible is wrapped. The hardest part was the left steering wheel insert with the volume/phone buttons.

If I were to redo it I would probably remove the parts to save time.

I REALLY REALLY WANT TO DO THIS....just unsure as to the tools and process needed what type of heat gun?power size etc...squeegy what type of knife.... LMK all the details please...i got a quote today just to do the two dash pieces guy wants $120 bucks soooo yaa i wanna learn how to do this........i gotta get rid of this ugly brown crap the dealer put on(plastic wood) seriously cheap looking! im desperate please advise oh and BTW can i just wrap the door handles(interior) without removing them?
 
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 08:47 PM
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As I mentioned earlier... I used a very cheap heat gun I purchased at harbor freight tools, an exacto knife and a hard rubber squeegee. If you order from Metro Restyling, they sell all the tools as well as the bonding "glue" terminalvelocity mentioned above (neither of us used it for our parts).

http://www.harborfreight.com/1500-wa...112-96289.html

There are videos on YouTube to get a sense of the ease/difficulty of working with the material. My guess is the people who have success with this are pretty detailed and patient. If you have ever worked with window tint or clear bras you will have a good sense of working with the vinyl.

Although I don't know terminalvelocity personally, I know we have similar styles. I have seen a few applications from members where the carbon patterns were going different directions, or the edges weren't folded over the lip, etc. If you notice his pics, everything is going the same direction, which is why it looks accurate and real. Simply laying out your pieces in the same direction before cutting will give you the consistency. I always cut a little more material than I needed because I could trim it away, but I could never add if it was too small.

I'm sure these are all common sense suggestions, but they're all I can really offer.

Regarding the door handles, I would think it would be fairly easy to do them on the door. All the other parts I did I removed from the car.
 

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