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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 12:00 PM
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The hood of my 2007 s gets so hot it would burn you if you held your hand there . Is that normal?
 
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 12:19 PM
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What color is your car and where do you live? My wife's RAV4 is black, and gets very hot just from the sun.

That being said, it's normal for the engine to make the hood of any car hot enough to be painful to the touch. It's not very clear just how hot you are talking though. Fry an egg hot, or ouch! hot? The latter is acceptable IMHO.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 12:30 PM
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Did you mean bonnet?

The turbo is right in the front, despite the heat shields it will always be hotter than your typical engine simply because of that. If you are concerned, call your SA and ask them about it. Im sure they wouldnt have a problem talking to you about it.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 12:36 PM
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Mine is fairly warm as well...but nothing extreme. No paint bubbling and no warping= no problem
 
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 12:39 PM
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I noticed the underside of the '07 bonnets almost have no insulation....
 
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by C4
I noticed the underside of the '07 bonnets almost have no insulation....
You say that like it's a bad thing...
 
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Korby
The hood of my 2007 s gets so hot it would burn you if you held your hand there . Is that normal?
Can you tell us your experince with autos....what all have you driven in the past? My experience is that most cars have hoods that get very hot especially on sunny days.

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I noticed the underside of the '07 bonnets almost have no insulation....
But there is supposed to be all this crush space between the engine and the hood now! Coupled with that "functional" hood scoop to "cool" the engine compartment.....I would expect the heat transfer to the hood to be less than the previous model
 
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 12:52 PM
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C4 made an observation, and a valid one at that. MINI has found that one of the biggest problems will be heat so i dont think they need any insulation adding to that.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by dneal
You say that like it's a bad thing...

Just an observation. I do not know for sure whether it is a good or bad thing
 
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 12:57 PM
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C4 made an observation, and a valid one at that. MINI has found that one of the biggest problems will be heat so i dont think they need any insulation adding to that.
Valid point, yes. But insulation doesnt add to the heat problem, it protects the bonnet from the heat generated. Even my Eclipse had a big heat shield on the hood.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 12:59 PM
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 01:03 PM
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It lines up pretty much with the exhaust manifold. Looks like all that's really needed to me.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 01:12 PM
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Trinity, I am only asking because I don't follow you. Wouldnt insulation under the bonnet trap heat in the engine bay, therefore increasing the amount of heat under the bonnet?
 
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 01:14 PM
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Seems like exhibit #101 of more R56 cost cutting

(Putting on the flame retardant suit)
 
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 01:15 PM
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LOL! my first post (which I changed) was "next you'll be telling us it's cost-cutting".
 
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 01:17 PM
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Great minds think alike dneal...
 
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by C4
Seems like exhibit #101 of more R56 cost cutting

(Putting on the flame retardant suit)
Or the engineers determined nothing more than that was needed. I mean, if we are going to speculate, then let's cover all the bases.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by familiarstranger
Wouldnt insulation under the bonnet trap heat in the engine bay, therefore increasing the amount of heat under the bonnet?
It seems that way to me. Leaving it uninsulated allows the hood to absorb heat and radiate it away.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 01:26 PM
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Thats what I would think.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 01:31 PM
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Hood insulation is more for noise than anything else these days.

However, I could see a use for a full insulation blanket. In extremely cold environments, I would think it would be beneficial to have the bonnet fully insulated. That is just a guess on my part.

But for the most part it does indeed trap heat inside the engine compartment.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by familiarstranger
Trinity, I am only asking because I don't follow you. Wouldnt insulation under the bonnet trap heat in the engine bay, therefore increasing the amount of heat under the bonnet?
Let me just preface my reply with that fact that I am nowhere near an expert but in my experience if the insulation is trapping heat then it is a negligible and really only becomes an issue when the car is at a standstill. Otherwise when the car is moving, air is circulating through the engine bay and the insulation shouldnt be a factor if at all. Thats my $.02 anyway.

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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 01:49 PM
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If there are no adverse affects, what difference does it make whether Mini saves a few (million) dollars by not installing heat shielding on the bonnet.

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Seems like exhibit #101 of more R56 cost cutting

(Putting on the flame retardant suit)
 
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 01:49 PM
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Ok that makes some sense, but if the insulation is mostly for sound deadening then I dont want anymore than there is. The car needs to get louder as is.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 01:54 PM
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Turbo engines are well known for generating heat... combine that with the minimal hood insulation, and the result is a hood that is very hot to the touch. I wouldn't be overly concerned...
 
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by familiarstranger
Ok that makes some sense, but if the insulation is mostly for sound deadening then I dont want anymore than there is. The car needs to get louder as is.
That's my bet. They also don't want heat bubbling paint. The turbo will get very hot, and it's an open question so far if in real life (not just endurance testing) as to whether or not the heat on the hood is too much.
 
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