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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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So what are your overall impressions Rivet, taken a test drive yet?
 
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Luvyellow
Can you get any pictures of carbon black, checked cloth seats and door panels?
As soon as I see one I will get pictures.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by H.A.W.G.
So what are your overall impressions Rivet, taken a test drive yet?
IMHO:

Exterior - The R56 appears to be "inflated" - meaning that it looks like features are puffed up. The hood is higher and more vertical in the front. The fog lights are bigger; the wheel arch trim is larger (this may not be an issue if you paint the trim); etc. It is not necessarily a bad look, but just takes some time to get used to. The exterior features are livable in my opinion with the exception of the hood scoop. While I know they kept it for model distinction, it just seems a bit chintzy to me.

Interior - One word - bad. Everything looks like it was made by Tyco. I won't even start on the speedo, but the entire center column looks cheap. It is just not to my liking. Others may love it and I don't want to take anything away from that. This is only my opinion.

I have not had the pleasure of a test drive but am scheduling one soon.

Bottom line: I think the exterior will grow on you, but you don't see that when you are sitting behind the wheel. I am not sure if what you do see from behind the wheel will grow on you or not.

I am glad to have an '06.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 01:56 PM
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Thanks for the pics. And hey – the turn signal / windshielf whiper stalks are black!!

Retrofit time...
 
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by rivet
IMHO:

Exterior - The R56 appears to be "inflated"
That's my impression, too. The new nose with the "wall eyed" headlights doesn't look right. That along with the fake hood scoop and switch from delightful screaming supercharger to the uninspiring turbocharger makes me glad I grabbed a 2006 JCW just before they stopped making them.

The only thing that could get me excited about the 2007 is if Cooper Works were to offer a replacement hood with a real scoop and a supercharger cranking out 250HP. Until that happens, I'll snicker as my 2006 JCW zips past the 2007s I encounter.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 06:16 AM
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Sorry but I hate the fake hood scoop
I'll bet the fake hood scoop will quickly become an intake modding opportunity!
 
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 07:54 AM
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Now that's funny!

Originally Posted by eager2own
Awesome!! Now the guy behind me can see how fast I'm going.
maybe it so a copper following you will not have to use his radar or his own speedo

Anyone selling a kit yet to convert it to the R53 interior??
 
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 10:22 AM
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I find it absolutely amazing how may folks who detest R56 are "so glad they have an '06." Fine...super!! But let's not get carried away. Many of the gripes seem only exercises in locating what is different and then denigrating that. One is entitled to one's opinion, but the overwhelming sense after many weeks of scrutiny is that R56 is 1) a true MINI and 2) a total redesign from R50/53. Nuff said, imo...let's just let R56 be.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by gokartride
I find it absolutely amazing...
After reading some of your other posts, it is clear that you are R56 through and through. Congratulations. I am sure you will really like it; however, new models are always compared to their predecessor. Some like the new and some like the old, neither is bad, just personal opinion.

As you spoke in your post of people denigrating the R56, you have done the same to the current generation.

Glass houses.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 10:48 AM
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I have read many posts by gokartide and found most of them to be an attempt at peacemaking. I think gokart is just trying to keep peace in the MINI family.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by rivet
As you spoke in your post of people denigrating the R56, you have done the same to the current generation. Glass houses.
Not so, friend....I, too, love my '03 R50.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by rivet
After reading some of your other posts, it is clear that you are R56 through and through. Congratulations. I am sure you will really like it; however, new models are always compared to their predecessor. Some like the new and some like the old, neither is bad, just personal opinion.

As you spoke in your post of people denigrating the R56, you have done the same to the current generation.

Glass houses.
gokartride is probably the most peacekeeping person between the last generation and new generation owners. Hes an avid lover of his 03 Cooper and he shows it daily. He also isn't someone who loves every little feature on the 06 either.. He has gripes and he has posted them before.

Of course new models are always compared to the old, but I can tell you we do have a handful of people that are willing to absolutley shun a new R56 owner from anything MINI related if they had the choice. I've always wondered what those people would do at the MINI Club meets in there local area when a R56 pulls up :P
 
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by gokartride
Not so, friend....I, too, love my '03 R50.
My apologies then, I must have misread some of your posts in the Official List of Praises thread.

This thread was intended for people who wanted specific pictures of the R56, if they want to comment positively or negatively, great. Everyone should be allowed to present their opinion.

Originally Posted by PezRadar
.... but I can tell you we do have a handful of people that are willing to absolutley shun a new R56 owner from anything MINI related...
I'm not one of them. I can honestly say that I like the exterior of the R56 in person much better than I did in pictures.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by rivet
This thread was intended for people who wanted specific pictures of the R56, if they want to comment positively or negatively, great. Everyone should be allowed to present their opinion.
Well since you've seen one (R56)...AND photographed one in person you do have a lot more to go on than most of us have. The reports from "across the pond" have been most helpful. I admit, I still have my own likes and dislikes about R56, but overall I am pleased. Keep in mind, I am watching this solely from the Cooper side, and I now find things about my own '03 Cooper that actually make more sense (to me) in the R56 interation.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 12:26 PM
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What is with that headliner shot? Not sure what the switches are for... one looks like its for opening the sunroof, but how could there be a sunroof with all those switched in the way?
Originally Posted by rivet
more photos...
 
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by CapWKidd
What is with that headliner shot? Not sure what the switches are for...
From left to right (I believe): Drivers reading light... ALL interior (white) lights... sunroof... interior (colored) ambient light... passenger reading light.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2006 | 03:44 AM
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Thought I would throw my bits in about the '56, these previous opinions and disagreements seem to head in the direction of "Original" Mini owners disliking our "new" Minis. Does it really matter ? It looks like a Mini, says "Mini" on it, drives like a mini, then it must be a Mini.

Personally, I purchased my late '06 because I saw the '07 and heard about the Turbo. I do think the 50,52,53 look more like the original as they were supposed to and I find that more appealing, just my opinion and one of my reasons for ordering my baby - felt it was now or never.

On the other side of the coin, it'll be fun watching the roads for the "new" guys and the new paint schemes, wheels and such.....

I have loved Minis since I was a little lad, once I recall a club stopped by the local shopping center with the "Original" when I was about 10. They had several wonderful machines and even a wagon and one made into a small pick-up.

You can't help but love them all....

Mike
 
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Old Dec 7, 2006 | 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by jamesday24
I'd like to see as many of the new wheels as you can find.
Flame Spokes

 
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Old Dec 7, 2006 | 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnna
Cool pics! Got any shots of the engine bay?
R56 Cooper S engine bay




 
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by R56MCS
R56 Cooper S engine bay
Thanks ever so much!
 
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by R56MCS
Flame Spokes

I'd call them "horse shoe" wheels!
 
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Old Dec 9, 2006 | 05:33 AM
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Yeah, many people do

JCW do a simliar design with thinner spoke.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2006 | 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnna
Thanks ever so much!
My pleasure
 
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 02:49 AM
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What about the sunroof? Has the opening been trimmed? I went to the build-your-own and that photo shows a sunroof not fully open, or another reason I'm so glad I got an '06.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 06:41 AM
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I don't have a sunroof in mine, however both the front and rear of the sunroof now tilt. As far as I am aware it is the same size as the previous model.
 
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