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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 10:09 AM
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Side by side comparison

http://mini2.com/article389--exclusi...-pictures.html

 
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by kenchan
i can't get my eyes off that faux intercooler scoop....
If it's faux it's got to go. Functional is the only reason for a scoop. The intercooler is behind the grille. Maybe it's to provide cooling are for the squirel cage?
 
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 10:18 AM
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just when I thought that the center cluster couldn't get any uglier I'm proven wrong... wow, 'no way' on the nav system...

Originally Posted by jiggajaymz
I agree 100%, The nav is a must in my book. With the CD player in the stack, it "fills" it out a bit more=less space inbetween each component. It looks mucho better, not as cheap. I'm second on the wait list at South Bay Mini, I guess I'll be a R56 guinea pig!
 
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 10:38 AM
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I guess I'm just easy to please cause every time I see a picture of an 07' it just keeps looking better.

And better mileage, more power, a much more technologically advanced engine, I think they've done a fine job.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 11:05 AM
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what a beautifuly done car.... a nice evolution of the mini indeed.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by IOmini_punkin
If it's faux it's got to go. Functional is the only reason for a scoop. The intercooler is behind the grille. Maybe it's to provide cooling are for the squirel cage?
You're right! I'd sure like to know if there's any reason for that scoop. Anything??? That'd sure help calm some fears.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 11:28 AM
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OK, is it just me or does it look as if there isn't as much headroom??

I really don't like the beach ball sized speedo. It is HUGE isn't it or did they just make the steering wheel smaller?

I'm very confused. It looks like someone stepped on it a bit and it's shorter and fatter. I don't care for the flatter bonnet or the fake scoop.

Fake scoop=lame

On a positive note, I do like the dash and the seats look cool. Also I like the tail lights.

I guess we'll just have to see it in person!
 
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 11:51 AM
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I am liking the new seats, with the colored "cod piece". :-) The changeable lighting is an interesting idea that will remain "cool" for about the first week of ownership. *shrug*
 
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 11:54 AM
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I wonder if there is a chance that the fake scoop might somehow be used for an aftermarket intake?
 
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 11:54 AM
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From this previously posted website:

http://www.cardesignnews.com/site/ho...re4/item46801/

"Conclusion
There have been very few, if any, new cars which appear to differ so little from their predecessor as the new Mini design..."

Most people won't even be able to tell the difference absent a side by side comparison. These are the same kind of reactions that Porche or BMW get whenever they redesign cars like the 911 or 3-Series respectively. There are the "purists" who resist change and those that embrace the new styling. I have an 06. I certainly don't hate the new one. It doesn't look any better or worse to me, its just slightly different...
 
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 12:28 PM
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Exterior is Fine though the hood isn't as nice.
The MPG ratings are fantastic. Only thing I'll be envious of. I can even consider getting a MCS in '09.
The NAV is finally touchscreen.
Fake hood scoop is silly, a friend of mine and I was checking out a FJ Cruiser and I popped the hood and laughed with disgust, the salesman said it was just for looks which appears to be the case here. What it could be used for is some aftermarket CAI mods I suppose.
I like the headliner switch group but the interior doesn't appeal to me.
Seat fabric looks like it would wear really quick.
Like the idea of custom interior lighting and pushbutton starter.
Don't like the center console and I bet some aftermarket mfgers. are going to make a sweet replacement.

Overall it's fine and I will probably swap my '06 for an '09 MC. While this is a serious overhaul I would hope there will be much less "1st" year issues. It will also be nice to see what they offer for JCW for both the MC and MCS.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Crusoe
While this is a serious overhaul I would hope there will be much less "1st" year issues.
I wouldn't bank on that. First year issues with the R50/R53 included:
  • stress cracked windshields - Ah, how long have we had windshields?
  • Leaky coolant expansion tanks - A leak from a plastic bottle?
  • Shift linkages that broke easily and left people stranded with the car in on gear they couldn't get out of - attached with plastic clips.
  • Cold Start - purely a software issue, as though electronic fuel injection and OBDII were something new.
I'm sure I'm leaving out some things, but the point being that some of the big problems in that first year weren't due to groundbreaking technology.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 01:58 PM
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What is the **** on the drivers door? Did they relocate the mirror ajustment ****?
 
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 02:45 PM
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Yup. Mirror adjustment ****.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by bumble's angel
What is the **** on the drivers door? Did they relocate the mirror ajustment ****?
Yes.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 03:40 PM
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Anybody else feel like you're at your high school reunion, seeing the girl you had a massive crush on, and she's put on 20 pounds? It's a combination of excitement and disappointment, in just about equal proportions.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by El_Jefe
Well, if you hit someone head on, it rips off your nuts.


Originally Posted by El_Jefe
This stops you from reproducing, which is possibly a good thing as anyone who would buy this car right now over an 06 should consider not. It also makes you like the new look more as it completely has lost its own ***** as well.

I saw that and was like DANG! OUCH! no chillin in that seat.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 04:27 PM
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Looks like a bigger tweeter. Maybe they have improved the standard stereo. Also, the change to the door for the mirror control is an improvment.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 04:51 PM
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Can someone kindly photoshop a set of driving lights on both models? KTHXBYE
 
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by fillelectrique
i concur, sir! and i raise you a "hate" of the center console, and a "surprisingly grooving" the dash.
The CD is in the speedomoter? Wow, ugly. Why not put the fuel / gas cap there as well? Very very VERY glad no changes on the 07 MCSC!!!!
 
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 10:30 PM
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I think it looks pretty good. Bit more modern, but still keeping that usual Mini look we have gone onto loving.

Don't think though you'll be seeing me trading my '05 Mini for the new '07. Maybe as the years swing by, BMW will give it some more treatment to enhance it's look and just maybe I'll consider it.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 01:19 AM
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Dash=YES!
Center console=no
Front= no
Rear= no
<<<<Purist
Change is inevitable!
 
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 04:24 AM
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Car and Driver has posted their article: http://www.caranddriver.com/carnews/...-unveiled.html

I think the new model looks better with stripes than without, so these look better than the spy photos we've been looking at for a year.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by BFG9000
I think the new model looks better with stripes than without, so these look better than the spy photos we've been looking at for a year.
I agree. The bonnet stripes help distract from the bulgieness. Funny how the wall-eye'd look is more obvious from the side than it is from the front. I still don't like the new bonnet overall. The new wiper arrangement/missing vents below the windshield setup is weak. Hope they have a slatted grill available for the S - the Cooper looks better for having it.

Like the new dash, though the over-oversized speedo is getting rediculous. Glad that there will be a proximity feature available for the pushbutton start - the pushbutton start is downright stupid without it. Center console is weak, but not as god-awful as the closeups last week made it look.

Overall, it still looks like a MINI. I won't be losing any sleep over getting my '06. That could change after driving one though ;-)
 
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 10:12 AM
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I'm okay with the whole thing, and I actually really like the interior on a whole except the console, which, to be frank, confuses me
 
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