R56 Bad friction wheel?
#1
Bad friction wheel?
I wanted to replace the belt for the first time. I was under the impression that after taking tension off of the belt by locking the tensioner that when I pulled the little tab on the friction wheel that the belt would slide off easily. The belt came off with a lot of force. It seems like the friction wheel is either worn out or isn't working properly. Bentley doesn't mention if when you pull the tab on the friction wheel that the actual friction wheel will move out slightly allowing for easy belt removal.
Any comments on proper friction wheel operation and if it common to change it out as well as the tensioner? I have 212,000 miles on my 2009 MCS so probably should change them both. Thoughts?
Any comments on proper friction wheel operation and if it common to change it out as well as the tensioner? I have 212,000 miles on my 2009 MCS so probably should change them both. Thoughts?
#2
The friction wheel tab will release the belt when it's pulled, BUT when you release the tab, the wheel engages the belt again. It's not like the tensioner release that locks into place. At least that's the way my '07S works --- I just finished a complete engine rebuild at 93K miles on original wheel. And no, Bentley doesn't tell us all we need to know, but try doing the job without it!
No experience with other friction wheels, but I haven't read about anyone else having to replace it either.
No experience with other friction wheels, but I haven't read about anyone else having to replace it either.
#3
Thanks. I remember seeing a video somewhere that showed the friction wheel actually moved a little when the tab was pulled. Then the belt can be easily removed. On my car....nothing really happens when I pull the tab. The friction wheel doesn't move and the belt is still tight (even with the tensioner locked). Maybe it needs a good cleaning.
For now I will just replace the tensioner...maybe Gates.
For now I will just replace the tensioner...maybe Gates.
#4
Thanks. I remember seeing a video somewhere that showed the friction wheel actually moved a little when the tab was pulled. Then the belt can be easily removed. On my car....nothing really happens when I pull the tab. The friction wheel doesn't move and the belt is still tight (even with the tensioner locked). Maybe it needs a good cleaning.
For now I will just replace the tensioner...maybe Gates.
For now I will just replace the tensioner...maybe Gates.
What's wrong with your tensioner? Are you sure you're releasing tension properly, so it can latch? This is an area where the Bentley manual is pretty good --- it's up to you to lock the tensioner in the "released" position. This loosens the belt from the associated pulleys. The friction wheel just applies pressure between the outside surface of the belt and the water pump, so when the tab is pulled, the belt isn't tight between the wheel and pump pulley --- it can be removed easily.
#5
I'll keep it simple.
When I pull the tab on the friction wheel it should move slightly or at least allow more access to remove the belt. Neither happened for me. I had to pull hard on the belt to get it out.
Nothing appears wrong with the tensioner but for $80 why not change it at 212,000 miles?
I already have the engine out and it can't last forever.
When I pull the tab on the friction wheel it should move slightly or at least allow more access to remove the belt. Neither happened for me. I had to pull hard on the belt to get it out.
Nothing appears wrong with the tensioner but for $80 why not change it at 212,000 miles?
I already have the engine out and it can't last forever.
#7
When you pull the friction wheel tab, the friction wheel loosens. If it does not, it might be bad.
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