Ok so i finally go the tune on my car with a big thanks to M7 tuning for hooking me up. They are a great group of people and i would highly recommend them!

So the tune itself is amazing! I never though that it would make this big of a difference but it is night and day. My car went from being quick to being properly fast. You also get some turbo flutter which i really like. My car has stayed in Map C since i don't have a SPS switch yet. I bought some headlights instead lol. I'll be getting a Scanguage 2 to monitor everything but i don't think I'll have any problems especially if i don't dog it everyday but let me tell you it's really tempting! It pulls in every gear and throws you in your seat. I raced a modded out FRS the other day and pulled off on him no problem. Now i just need to get my dad to race me in his S2000. I think i got him though.

If you are thinking about it i would totally say go for it. I don't regret spending all this money on my car at all. If anything the only downside is the miles I'm putting on it because i try to drive whenever i get the chance and smile everytime i do. You can mail in you ECU to M7 and they can do it unless you live close to another dealer.

As for mods i have a NM CAI, Miltek Catless DP (Ceramic coated by Swaintech), Invidia Q300 Catback, Powerflex Lower Motor Mount, Alta BOV spring upgrade, NGK ILKR8E6 Spark Plugs (One Stage Colder), and a Wagner Competition Intercooler.

If you have any question feel free to ask!

 

Is a cold air intake and aftermarket catback required for stage 2 or can I get away with a jcw filter/stock intake and stock exhaust/jcw exhaust and do stage 2 tune

 

You may and I say MAY be able to get away with the JCW intake and stock exhaust IF you have a catless downpipe or a high flow one. I'd check with a dealer though. If you don't want to do all that maybe look at Stage 1.

 

Yeah, I meant can I get away with a stock intake./ stock catback if I already have the catless downpipe, aftermarket intercooler and the colder spark plugs installed?

 

I run Manic stage 2 with stock intake and stock catback, catless downpipe, aftermarket intercooler and colder spark plugs with no problems. I usually stick to map B daily, Map A at the track. I never go near C. Although, with all this heat as of late, I've been staying in A all the time. I'm contemplating meth at the moment for more piece of mind. I just ran an SCCA PDX at Sebring with crazy heat. Car ran super strong all weekend. Had no problems; other than total brake fade. I was super surprised to see the Hawks get so soft. ...also researching brake options at the moment, lol. Sorry didn't mean to drift off topic

 

This may be a little off topic, but what's the difference between the three maps on the stage 2 tune?

 

Why don't you go near map C? I'm currently running that map right now as that's how it came set and I didn't buu the SPS Switch. I'm staying off the gas for the most part. My tuner told me it's fine to leave it in Map c as they make the tune safe for the car and that it shouldn't be a problem. Should I be switching off of that map? Just want to hear your reasoning. I'm not running it hard all the time. Normally I'm just driving it pretty easily.

 

Basically how much boost you're running. I believe that a is 1.3 bars b is 1.4 bars and c is 1.5 bars. I may be off by .1

 

Hi Alex,

Sorry for the delay. I use Dash Command on my iPhone via a Gopoint bluetooth adapter to monitor feedback. With map A I see boost max at 19, B at 21 and C at 23. I'm not completely convinced those numbers are spot on, but, if they are, then on C I'm pushing at least the stock S turbo beyond it's documented tolerances. The boost appears to climb naturally through the maps, while the torque seems to climb exponentially.

Research a little on here and around in general and you'll find quite a few stories of guys having catastrophic failures with their R56's that were running high boost tunes. Just last week I read a post on FB by Jan Brueggemann (revolution motor works), and I quote: " Having seen those tunes in person (referring to Manic), The C map was knocking on 93 like a hooker on a sugar daddy's door. I would only run the A map unless you are spraying at least 80% methanol."

You may run map C and never have a single issue. But remember, higher inlet temps and higher boost / compression put higher demands on your internals. To me it just makes sense to leave some headroom. So I back it down from C (which is essentially pushing all the perimeters to the limits). I also live in Central Florida. It's been over 100 degrees outside for the last two months. When the car is moving, I rarely see my intake rise more than 5 to 7 degrees above ambient, which is amazing. However, if I’m creeping along in heavy traffic or stopping frequently, I immediately see heat soak and intake temp quickly climbs to around 140 or so. At Sebring, during the last lap of the hottest session of the weekend, I saw my engine temp get to around 230, ambient was 99 and intake temp was 130, exhaust temp was close to 1600. With those kinds of demands on the engine, it seems like common sense to me to leave even more headroom. I think it really just boils down to whether or not you're willing to roll the dice. You may not ever have an issue, but, you may. How much is it worth to you to squeak out that last little bit of power; especially in a situation where you're just driving back and forth to work.

I think the Manic tune is great on the R56. If you're not spraying meth and you ARE doing any sort of off road activities though, then to me the switch seems like a really good idea. The first couple of track weekends I did with the tune, I had a couple of issues and had to run on stock. Had I not had the switch, I would have been on the side lines all weekend long with a big sad look on my face, not getting to drive at all. Lol.

I'll also mention, I always run 93, which is yet another reason to stay away from C. I experimented a little with the 30% Ethanol mix when I first got the tune. But ultimately I felt the potential for harm (extra strain on the HPFP and associated internal corrosion) outweighed the positives, so I don't mess with it.

I don’t want to tell you whether or not you need the switch. But, hopefully me experiences will help you decide for yourself.

-ian

 

personally if you have the supporting mods just run the map C on stage 2 save you little extra cash! i really don't understand the switching between stock maps to performance! can understand if the car was still under warranty! but hey each there own!! i even ran meth on manic stage 2 ! never had a problem!!