I thought they had an obd2 reader and could tell you the codes. Do you have any European specialists in your area that you might be able to try instead of dealer ?

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I'm confused as hell now. I'm trying to figure out why he doesn't think it will work on a turbo'd car.

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I hear you. Been there done that. I have an appointment to drop my car off at Flow on the 27th. Maybe one day when i'm down there we can have a cup of coffee. Have a good one. I'm out of here.

 

The only one I trust is about 1 1/2 hrs away plus cars already been dropped off

 

And plus there is no cel so a reader won't read it

 

To my knowledge, you can monitor a lot more than CEL from the OBD2 port. That's how they read your car at the MINI dealership.

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http://m.fuelpumpu.com/news-training...elivery-system

Check out the link

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I already know all that but if the check engine light isn't triggered then a scanner won't be of any use I know from personal experience.

 

You can monitor fuel pump pressure. That's how you could tell if it's the fuel pump.

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I agree that having say an AEM CAI, higher flow exhaust and a tune you will see larger gains than without a tune. The reason is because most newer vehicles ECU's are tuned in such a way that a large deviation from the original design (CAI's, exhausts etc.) goes outside of the narrow programing of ECU's. A perfect example is the Sport Mode, the programing is changed quite a bit, never have I felt such a difference in torque when compared to just adding a CAI and high flow exhaust system!

I owned and ran AEM's CAI for about 5 months. While I felt like lost that low rpm torque I was able to cause the front wheels to spin hard in first gear! I missed that snappy torque at low rpms so I sold it. I replaced it with a Borla S-Type exhaust system, maybe I'll see an 5-10% gain but it will sound awesome! I believe that the MCS with the stock tune is setup for high velocity airflow versus high volume, get it in and get it out as fast as possible.

Going with a high volume CAI and say an exhaust system with a 4" inch diameter plumbing together with a high flow muffler will gain mostly HP. The base engine that Mini uses for the MCS is pretty low in torque numbers when compared with the 118 HP. It's got nothing without the use of the turbo! I wish Mini had picked an engine that had higher torque and HP numbers and then slapped a turbo on top of that, that reminds me of the older Mitsubishi Eclipse 2.4 engine specs!

The Mitsubishi Eclipse (2.4 engine) was used in the first Fast & Furious.

 

Because a turbo is an active CAI device. A turbo controls airflow, so you would have to be an idiot to think adding a 2nd static CAI would give you gains.

 

The whole thing is advertised as a way to allow the turbo to have more airflow, to allow it to spool faster, etc... That's what I was saying was a joke. It also raised the temps of the intake air causing a loss in power and efficiency.

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You thought adding a different air filter was going to improve your turbo? I will sell you a magic fuel filter that will improve your fuel pump. No wonder the BMW mechs laughed at you.

 

No I didn't think the filter would improve the turbo. The simple fact is that if more "cold" air was entering the engine, it would alter the temp of the exhaust gasses being pushed out to the turbo, therefore making slightly more power from the denser air. If the kits worked like that, it would alter the performance of the car. If aftermarket piping was so much more efficient, it would alter how the turbo responds, since more air would be getting pushed through the engine, but the intakes don't work any better than stock. Sent from my iPhone using NAMotoring

 

Are there any exhaust out there that actually add horsepower?

 

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Not really it seems. A catless downpipe might add some top end hp in exchange for low end torque. Anything past that is just a noisemaker at stock power levels.

 

quite simply put.....anything you can bolt onto a car will not ADD horsepower......

....but what they can do is give you the ABILITY to make more Horsepower....

the only thing that really MAKES more HP on modern cars is an ECU tune.

without getting into too much detail, it essentially brakes down to the more HP you make, the larger exhaust pipe you need.


in years past, an aftermarket exhaust probably could have netted ~10 HP on a poorly designed car.....however recently, automakers have gotten their act together, and the stock exhaust on the R56 is really pretty decent.

and the stock exhaust will probably handle up to ~250-275 HP before it would be beneficial to upgrade it.

if you are interested, i can go into more detail if you want......but the skinny of it is, unless you are making large amounts of HP (for our cars), you will see not much street performance benefit going to an aftermarket exhaust...

 

And 250hp is 30% E85 with the JB+ maxed out so short of that, spend your money on some driving lessons or grippy tires :-). EDIT: N/A to OP, sorry.

 

I think that it should be illegal for these manufacturers to claim that their products add such huge gains to stock cars without any other modification. Just as there is a truth in lending act, I think there should be a truth in marketing act that would make it illegal to falsely advertise these parts for gains that simply don't exist.

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its all in the wording.....

next time look at how they advertise, very rarely do the claim " gauranteed to make +20 HP".......most of the time, they are something like "adds UP TO +20 HP"

theres no definitive claim, just that you might see up to +20 HP....or you might not.

its no different than when tooth paste adds claims like "9/10 dentists recommend"....it means nothing.

thats why you need to do your research before you buy.....

 

Truth.

Before I joined the car modification/performance world, I spent 8 (and still counting) years in the motorcycle world. My mantra while one two wheels was this:

Learn how to really ride before you go trying to make it 'more powerful'. Most folks will rarely ever out perform their vehicle. People with incredible street machines get passed and out run by folks who are just proficient and disciplined operators.

But on topic:

1. Catless DP.
2. Intercooler
3. Tune.

 

I'm by no means new to world
Of fast cars but I've only had american muscle cars that are a lot less complicated and easier to modify. So all this info is very helpful to and I appreciate it. Foreign cars are exactly that to me foreign.

 

Research the ECU tunes, NM engineering, Renntech, etc. $500+. You could also try to get a used accessport but support is limited on those. The JB+ isnt an option for you unfortunately.

 

I'm not trying to make the car x-seconds faster around a course. A little extra power just makes the car more fun to drive on the roads I travel on a daily basis.

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