Our cars hold up pretty well against the Subaru's. it's all how you drive. i raced a 2010 wrx a couple weeks okkay and beat him by a car length.

 

I could be wrong but i'm pretty sure the JB+ is only good on the N18 engines. If i read the OP right he has a 08 which is the N14 so the JB+ wont work.

 

Ah, you are correct about the OP having an N14, but my last post was directed to ChiliRedR56raleigh whose sig shows he's got an '11 MCS, hence the quote.

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Do you have the JB? I've been dragging my feet getting one since my cars been in the shop so much, and I wasn't sure I was going to keep it. I'm going to give it a few months to see if it stops giving me problems, so I might go ahead and order a JB. I'm sure if I sold the car I could find a buyer on here for a gently used JB. What's been your experience with the product? Noticeable gains? Any real world dyno numbers, or 0-60 and 1/4 mile times before and after?

 

I do have a JB+ and very happy with it. I have posted my comments on the Burger Tuning thread as well as others.

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There STI's

 

STIs are heavy and cumbersome compared to the MINI. Honestly I would say ditch the run flat tires and get some with good grip. You can plant power better and brake a little later when a turn comes along. My best friend has an STI that he has done moderate engine tuning on. I have a stock JCW (as far as engine mods are concerned). I have just lowered the car, I have a different exhaust, and I have some light wheels with some Michelin Ultra high performance all season tires and he struggles to even keep up with me through canyons. Light to light dragging he will always edge me; but that's to be expected with an untuned FWD vs a moderately tuned AWD 300hp+ car.

I apologize but I haven't read the entire forum so if what I'm saying is redundant...my bad.

Maybe buying a used AccessPort and just flashing a Stage 1 would be a good option for more power...Unfortunately with MINIs (and most modern cars) a tune is the thing that brings you power. Bolt ons won't do the trick by themselves which is unfortunate. Some sticky tires, a stage 1 tune, maybe a sway bar (if you take corners with these guys) should set you up nicely.

 

Got my intake in...love it.

 

Glad you like it, but 99.9% of intakes are noise makers, and 3rd party dyno testing has revealed they don't put out extra power. If anything, they steal your low end grunt. Not to say I haven't had an intake before, but on the MINI at least, it didn't do anything for me. On my Civic Si, that had a direct tubing into the wheel well to bring in cold air, the gains were there, but the mini doesn't have any that are like that.

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Accessport doesn't work on the N18. I love the way the MINI drives, but the WRX, and Sti's will dog even a JCW. Stock WRX's are sub-5 second 0-60 and with all wheel drive, no wheel spin. Getting a FWD car to get anywhere near that is nearly impossible no matter how much power you have. Your friend should be pulling away from you much more than just edging you out. It should be a slaughter. No, the WRX/Sti are not as fun in the twisties, and have more roll, but in most situations they can carry the speed in and out of the bend since they have the AWD to push and pull them through the turn. It might not be as firm, and sporting as the MINI is, but all out speed, and ability...I'm voting Subie on this.

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a WRX also weighs a good 800lbs more than a MINI.....that means it has to brake sooner going into the curves. The high HP and AWD means it should be able to punch out of the corners like a boss......but there is no way it can carry as much speed into them as the MINI does, and from my experience, that is where the most time is lost.

on the straights, the Subbie wins hands down......but in the curves, there is not much in the MINIs price range that can even come close.....

 

It actually only weighs about 400 lbs more, which isn't much since it is a much larger car. To me, the WRX is just an entirely different breed than what we drive. Cross shopping their capabilities is kinda pointless, since they both have pros and cons. The MINI is no lightweight, which I like, since it makes the car feel substantial. I think that on a closed course, the Subie will still smoke our cars. You can say the have to brake early, but we can't hammer the car coming out of the turn for two reasons - 1st understeer, 2nd no LSD or AWD. It's a stalemate there IMO. but the Subie will carry speed everywhere else that our cars can't match.

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One youtube video? There are hundreds if not thousands of dyno tests that prove CAI's work. Maybe not much on a turbocharged Mini - because the heat from the turbo will negate most cold air gains. But you will get an improvement on a non-turbo/supercharged Mini.

 

 

Just for fun:
http://www.minitorque.com/forum/f10/...ick-until-541/

 

Everyone thinks they are beating the other cars on the road.

 

I traded in my 08 WRX with 325 AWHP/350 AWTQ, it weight 3,000 lbs and was very, very much quicker than my new to me 2010 MCS. I am 71 years old and wanted to get something a little less conspicuous. The WRX was very raw. I had a lot of mods that I did myself, including Brembos F/R, bigger turgo, IC, suspension and leather interior.

 

I'm fairly new to minis as well, but I've got a noticeable difference with what I got on my 07mcs. So far I've done the hot side pipe off the turbo quicksilver downpipe back turbo inlet hardpipe and a cone filter. My guess is I'm over 200hp but I'm not sure. Next on the list is valve cleaning, bigger fmic, catless downpipe and a tune for power. Looks and handling I'm going with a cup kit strut braces and few other things.

 

I never said anything about one YouTube video. There are hundreds of dyno tests and people that will back up what I said about the gains. They are virtually non existent.

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You're probably referencing the "hundreds if not thousands" of dyno tests that the CAI manufacturers put out. A couple it buddies of mine are BMW mechanics and engineers that have said explicitly that 99.9% of intakes creat lots of noise, but low end power suffers and at the most you get a 1% gain at high rpm from an intake. I'll let you keep believing that the intake is creating 20 extra hp or whatever number you believe, but they don't do jack, unless you have a true cold air intake that pipes air in from the wheel well, and has a ram air effect.

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Sorry, you posted on a forum where people share their honest opinions, and don't just tell you BS to make you feel good about your purchase. Sent from my iPhone using NAMotoring

 

That's awesome! I hope when I'm your age I still have the need for speed like you do!! Congrats man, you have me hope for when I get older, that life can still be about fast cars!

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I saw where the boost tube without a tune causes your ECU to cut boost in the upper REv range. What are you running to prevent that from happening?

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Yes I to know somebody who knows something that they only know. CAI goes to simple laws of thermodynamics. The test data is there for anyone to research. Less than 10% of cars are turbo's so 90% of cars would benefit from colder intake air. But not to confuse you - a turbo is a CAI on steroids.

 

To be honest I haven't had a problem like that till today. I've had the hot side pipe on since june. The only code Ive gotten since I did it was for my valve cover but that's a normal fault that happens to all of them from what I've seen.