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Old Aug 24, 2011 | 09:28 AM
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I agree fully on an S. Premium should be used to obtain max performance. However I disagee on a non S. The recommended is 89 but you can use 87 (which I am a tad bit leery of) I will test the waters when we finally take delivery and if I see a difference even between brands, which I am not sure that there is especially in the northeast. I will stick to it.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2011 | 02:14 PM
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I fill my MCS with children and puppies. Burns nicely with no knocking.
 

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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 10:17 AM
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Reviving an old thread....interesting article that's 4 years old:

http://www.khou.com/news/Records-sho...-70233502.html
 
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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by roberts23
Out of curiosity what is the recommended grade a gas for the MCS?
The manual says 89 octane minimum, 91 recommended.

My wife and I recently completed a cross country trip to the east coast and back in her '12 MCS (5,500 miles round trip). Bought fuel in a lot of different states, calculated the MPG at every fill up (I don't trust the computer, it was always high by a mile or two). Here in AZ, can only get 91 with 10% ethanol. In a lot of states 93 was the norm. Made a bit of difference in MPG, the big factor was ethanol. When I was able to get ethanol free gas, mileage went up 2-3 MPG. Makes me wonder why we are forced to use ethanol? Is my understanding it takes more than a gallon of gas to make one gallon of ethanol. Most of my fill ups were either Shell or Chevron, I like to stick with top tier.

Lastly, I was amazed at the difference in prices in different parts of the country. I paid anywhere between $4.10 to $3.50 per gallon.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by theunclesam
I fill my MCS with children and puppies. Burns nicely with no knocking.
Yes!!!
 
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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 09:10 PM
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Check out puregas.org for a list of stations throughout the country that sell ethanol free gas.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by AZdsrt
Made a bit of difference in MPG, the big factor was ethanol. When I was able to get ethanol free gas, mileage went up 2-3 MPG. Makes me wonder why we are forced to use ethanol? Is my understanding it takes more than a gallon of gas to make one gallon of ethanol.
The excuse is for emissions standards, but the truth IIRC is corn subsidies.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 09:29 PM
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Check out puregas.org for a list of stations throughout the country that sell ethanol free gas.
Sorry, but what exactly, is the point of that website?
 
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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 09:31 PM
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Sorry, but what exactly, is the point of that website?
I think the website is pure-gas.org

That little "-" can be a pesky bugger when it's missing!
 
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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 09:42 PM
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My personal gasoline data

Here are the data from my 2010 R56 justa Hardtop. Car is garaged in southern Missouri. Data is from the first 34 tanks of gasoline between August 2010 and December 2011. I generally drive until the warning icon appears (two segments left on the gauge), so a "tank" is usually about 400-450 miles. I stop fueling when the pump shuts off.

Total average MPG is 36.3 (14,020 miles / 386.2 gallons).

Worst tank = 31.2 mpg; best tank = 41.8 mpg, so the 36.3 avg is plus or minus about 5 mpg.

By Brand
(for n=x, x is the number of tanks of that brand)
(aki - anti knock index or 'octane')

Casey's "Super" (10% ethanol) - 89 aki; n=5; (2108/58.66)= 35.94 mpg

Shell V-Power Premium - 91 aki; n=4; (1644/45.14)= 36.42 mpg

Conoco Premium - 91 aki; n=3; (1440/35.3)= 40.79 mpg

Phillips 66 Regular - 87 aki; n=3; (1192/34.72)= 34.33 mpg

Phillips 66 Premium - 91 aki; n=11; (4,603/130.25)= 35.34 mpg

QuickTrip Premium - 91 aki; n=2; (894/22.85)= 39.12 mpg

Sinclair Premium - 91 aki; n=4; (1695/45.04)= 37.63 mpg

NOTES:
- All MPH values are calculated from odometer miles divided by gallons (not from the car's 'computer')
- All are TopTier brands except Casey's and Sinclair
- Often I was able to run two or more tanks in a row of the same gas, but otherwise a couple of gallons of the previous tank was mixed in with the 10-12 gallons of new gas.
- Most tanks were a mix of local and highway miles, although 'highway' driving for me is much more likely to be a secondary road than Interstate. Nine of the 34 tanks were from a road trip - with roof rack and cargo box on top. Both my best and worst tanks were from that trip.
- My driving style alternates between moderate and manic.
- I can't really say I noticed much difference in performance.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 10:52 PM
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Sunoco 93 over here
 
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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 10:58 PM
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Best mpg I've ever gotten was with Shell 93 and Sunoco 94. BP wasn't so good...speedway was worse.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2013 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by PatM
Actually that tire rotation gadget is not a bad idea. For the older guys out there that may not be such a bad idea especially if you rotate your own tires. I used to rotate my own but since I went to non run flat tires the Tire shop that sold them to me does free tire rotations. It's still my responsibility to get the car in at the proper rotation points. I keep the data in an iPhone APP that tracks fuel economy and maintenance and it reminds me when to do certain maintenance.

(Don't forget to backup your IPhone. LOL)
What is the name of that app??
 
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Old Aug 29, 2013 | 06:58 PM
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I use "Gas Buddy". You can customize maintenance reminders for each vehicle you want to track.

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Old Aug 30, 2013 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by TestDummy
I use "Gas Buddy". You can customize maintenance reminders for each vehicle you want to track.

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Hey thanks. I will look into that more
 
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Old Oct 20, 2013 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by MINI_42
I think the website is pure-gas.org

That little "-" can be a pesky bugger when it's missing!
I found this thread after I posted on one of the general areas - what's the current status of the debate of using gas with ethanol vs. "pure" gas (ethanol free).

The "pure" stuff is really pricey here in the TN area - is it worth it?
 
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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 02:27 AM
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I did put in the "pure" stuff in my CM Base and noticed a difference. Got 4 more MPG's plus better performance.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 04:44 AM
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I'm using Mobil 93 octane now. I can notice a difference after I had to get my injectors cleaned because of Costco gas.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2016 | 10:27 AM
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Sorry to awaken this thread but has anyone used a octane booster?
Looking into this one just to see how 104 octane feels.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/me...commendedparts
 
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Old Apr 9, 2016 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Beachnmini
I'm using Mobil 93 octane now. I can notice a difference after I had to get my injectors cleaned because of Costco gas.
What happened with the Costco gas? Was it one tank, or did you normally fill up with it? It's supposed to be top tier gas and exceed all of the detergent specs of the EPA requirements.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2016 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by automan21
Sorry to awaken this thread but has anyone used a octane booster?
Looking into this one just to see how 104 octane feels.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/me...commendedparts

If you google "Home made octane booster" you' get some good information about adding xylene to your gas along with tables about how much to add per gallon for the desired octane.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2016 | 11:24 AM
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I have put only Costco gas in my MINI since it was new and have had no problems.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2016 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DneprDave
I have put only Costco gas in my MINI since it was new and have had no problems.
As I recall, didn't Costco get a top tier rating a while back?
 
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Old Apr 9, 2016 | 08:21 PM
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I don't believe all Costco gas was Top Tier until around 2014 or so. They had it at a few locations before then.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2016 | 11:23 AM
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Costco has had "top tier" specifications for a long time, they just started paying for permission to put up signs that say so.

It is a marketing thing.
 
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