I was building on a manual S on MINIUSA and there is no LSD under performance! I see the sport suspension... but no LSD.

 

Discontinued! You can choose the e-diff or buy a different car. Sorry you missed out :(

But you can still order a manual transmission, for now...

 

 

At least they removed it from the site finally. I specced out my Mini only to have the dealer respond with "the site is out of date".

 

i guess i am keeping my 08 then, no new one until this is changed.

 

Get the DTC option. LSD had problems. I have it on a 2007 MCS. Causes anit-torque steer, so at WOT the car swerves from side-to-side like a drunken sailor.

 

It won't be coming back. It's not just MINI; mechanical LSD has disappeared across almost the entire BMW line. The real issue is that nobody is ordering it. MotoringFile said that some dealers got only a few orders for LSD all year.

 

BMW just reintroduced the mechanical LSD for 1 and 3 series... its just very well hidden under their performance section.

 

I would have thought that anti-torque would annihalate the torque leaving no torque steer... and maybe create a black hole.

 

i hav an LSD on my '10 camden :D

 

I love my LSD

 

It shifts back and forth between alternative dimensions.

For more info see these articles at MotoringFile.com

MINI to Drop Mechanical Limited Slip for 2010

Why the JCW Factory MINI will not get LSD

 

I think the easiest way to describe it is that due to the nature of an lsd, the majority of torque will shift to either side similar to the way a flag waves in a mostly one directional wind.

 

How about a positive LSD story?

Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death; life is only a dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather!

On the MINI front, though, I'm glad I spec'd Chester with lsd - it's nice to pull out of a corner without either losing traction or the engine bogging down.

 

So that's how String Theory came about. I always wondered. At least he didn't jump off a building, thinking he could fly.

Another LSD story, one theory suggests that the frenzy that lead to the Salem Witch Trials was due to LSD hallucinations from ergot poisoning. Ergot is a fungus that grows on various grains, and was the first source for LSD.

It can still bog down, even with LSD. I've had that happen in the rain. When the LSD is overwhelmed, All Season Traction Control (ASTC) will kick in to cut engine power.

With the DTC option you get EDLC which will prevent wheel spin by applying just enough braking to the spinning wheel to stop the spin and transfer some of the power to the other wheel. This method is (according to a MotoringFile article) more effective than our LSD.

 

BMW has work to do on customer education for the EDLC- because I'm not sold. If my MINI was totaled tomorrow, I would be buying a different car since I cannot get another with a diff. Just like I don't want a double clutch flappy paddle gearbox. I waited a long time and drove a lot of crap cans, wanting a car with an LSD. It works nicely on track days, and I'm not going back.

 

My '09 MCS has both the mechanical LSD and the electronic version that comes with the Dynamic Traction Control option. I just took "Clark" in for his first service last weekend and the mechanic said that mine was the first car he had ever seen with two types of LSD. He then asked me if I had trouble making up my mind when I ordered the car. hahahaha.

I have noticed that it can cause a weird "swaying" motion under hard acceleration. I tend to drive like my mother now-- after my second speeding ticket... time to slow it down.

 

Well there is always aftermarket

 

How do you have the electronic version? is there a way to tell? I have the LSD and DTC option in my '10 Camden MCS

 

You have the electronic version. It is included with the DTC option, so if the button on the console says DTC and not DSC, you have it.

 

Sounds like the LSD. Does it pull the steering wheel from side-to-side as it sways? Or, is it just body roll? If you had only LSD, it would pull. If it doesn't pull much, I think it means EDLC is compensating for the problems with LSD.

 

I was just at the dealership today, sign said mini discontinued the LSD as of Feb.15/2010.
So if you want LSD, you'll be limited to what's already in stock.

 

Love the LSD my MINI was built with. I believe that DTC will most likely cause premature front brake pad wear. No LSD, one more reason to keep driving my R53.

One could go aftermarket, but that will cost a lot of money. $500 for the factory installed LSD was a steal.

 

Oh... it pulls! I was taking a left at an intersection and accelerated a little too hard perhaps (was happy to put my summer wheels back on) and when I was coming out of the corner it seemed like the car couldn't decide where it wanted to go! Felt like I was being shot out of a cannon for a second. Oh the life of a MINI driver eh?

I did all sorts of experimenting this Winter with the mechanical LSD on my car, the EDLC, DTC,... I'm still as confused as hell. I did find that pressing the DTC button gave me more forward momentum in deeper snow and on slushy roads but it seemed at a cost of some lateral traction... I dunno... perhaps I know less than I think...

I guess I like having BOTH LSD and EDLC because they both work in very different ways. I just haven't decided yet if they are living in harmony with my car.

 

I've got an '09 manual S with LSD if you're desperate to have one...make an offer.