Thats OK i read minds

 

No I got what you meant. What I meant is that you can't simply compare prices, even of used cars with the same specs/mileage. You have to compare the depreciation since there is an original cost difference between the two.

 

I don't think it would be more expensive but just like this dealer you may find fewer buyers available to buy an automatic.

 

supply and demand still rules in any situation. If the dealer can't get rid of them they will give discounts.

 

I mean.
OK> example here...
Car #1. MSRP 25000 with manual transmission.
Car #2. MSRP 26300 with automatic transmission.

2 years later.....
let's say they depreciated to 80% of the MSRP with the same mileage at 25K miles.


Car #1 should be $20000
Car #2 should be $21040.

If manual had higher demand, either Car #1 should be sold at higher than $20000 or Car #2 should be sold at a price below $21040 if the market is a buyers' market for used MINI's.

Never mind. I think what you're saying is correct but I was trying to defend that what I meant was also right but if you disagree that's fine by me.

 

Yeah i love my auto too. It is my first car since im in high school. Plus, it does offer a lot compared to a manual. With a manual, you have to shift. Manually.

But I can understand that a motoring enthusuast can prefer a manual!

 

Isn't the whole purpose of Kelley Blue Book to answer questions about comparable worth? Why not just look up the answer, instead of asking for opinions? It is what it is, depending on area of the county (by zip code), age of the vehicle, other options included, etc.

Seems like asking for opinions on the speed of acceleration due to gravity at the equator...

 

I have a lot of fun playing with the paddles of my auto tranny, especially in turns and twisties. And on so many levels, paddle and twisty just go together, no?

 

x2 minus the witty comment.

 

Lets get one thing straight Automatics are definitely easier to sell (new, used, it usually doesn't matter). No matter how big the enthusiast demand is, the overwhelming majority of US drivers want and in most cases can only drive ATs, for that reason alone a dealership will almost always fill their unsold slots with ATs.

Also think about it if your buying from stock, your willing to compromise on what you want, so an AT will definitely be an option for a greater % this customer as everyone can drive an AT. If you absolutely wanted an MT most importantly chances are your going to custom order.

MTs on the used market for many makes/models can sometimes draw a better price, but for the sole reason that they may be very rare for that particular car, this is simply not the case for the MC or especially the MCS, they probably have one of the highest MT to AT ratios of any car sold in the US (that offer both transmissions). If anything with the Minis increased appeal because of MPGs to the average US driver, and with such a large % of used Minis and especially MCS (they weren't available with ATs till 2006) with MTs, you might even see the opposite for awhile.

 

Yes agreed, I owned only MTs for 10 years before getting my A3 with DSG (paddles) and now my MCS with AT. While the A3 was even better than the MCS (afa shifting goes), I do now much prefer paddle shifting through twisties, simply because I keep two hands on the wheel at all times. I like focusing on the perfect turn/line over the perfect shift. Straight line, or for pure straight line speed, I prefer MTs, but I haven't been to the drag strip in awhile so don't miss it much.

 

I took my Mini in for service and they gave me a auto cooper. It's not as fun to drive as the stick, and when I put it in sport mode it just stayed in the lower gear all the time. After I drove it for a while I'll have to say it wasn't bad. If I had to drive in a lot of stop and go driving I'd get one. How is the auto with the S model?

 

Same thing with me. My manual was in the shop for about a week, and I was given a CR/CR MCa. I immediately appreciated owning a manual transmission. Without the sport button on, the car felt sluggish. And with it on it would never go into 6th gear.

 

I agree with y'all on the justacooper auto, little on the slow side. MCS with auto +sport button is the way to go!

 

I wouldn't mind trying an MCSa, but if the sport button acted the same way as the MCa I would never have it on. That and I don't like the placement of the paddles - I like to rest my hands there but you can't do that on the autos...

 

I am an older enthusiast and loved driving manual equipped cars for many years but my last car a modified '06 Mustang GT was a 5 speed automatic and now my '08 MCSa is an automatic.I do prefer driving an automatic being the benefit of the auto is the manual mode and paddle shifters which gives you much more control over the gears selected for sporty driving.Sure in the sports mode it doesn't go higher then 5th gear but just a pull on the paddle shifter puts into 6th.

Now here is an interesting tidbit a manual transmission actually costs more to make then an automatic but manufacturers charge more for an automatic.

 

The wife drives the auto all the time and now I'm stuck with the Clubman.