R56 start manual in second gear
I just use all the gears. If it is there I use it.
I think you can damage the clutch more if you lift it while you jam hard on the accelerator to get a power lurch. If you are smooth, I think it is OK to shift gears. Also heel-to-toe on down shifts is easy on the gears and clutch. Kind of like extra synchro-mesh.
I think you can damage the clutch more if you lift it while you jam hard on the accelerator to get a power lurch. If you are smooth, I think it is OK to shift gears. Also heel-to-toe on down shifts is easy on the gears and clutch. Kind of like extra synchro-mesh.
I don't generally skip gears, except that I skip 5th pretty routinely when I'm merging on the interstate and want to get up to speed quickly. In that case, I'll leave it in 4th until I'm up to my final speed and then go directly to 6th. There's a pretty big RPM drop between 4th and 6th, but since I'm not accelerating any further after the upshift to 6th, there's no danger of lugging the engine.
I don't usually skip on the way up, but I will on the way down (like if I'm in 4th and making a hard turn I may want to come out of the turn in 2nd, before gearing up again).
Starting in 2nd seems a bad idea though, unless your on a down hill and have a good roll going.
Starting in 2nd seems a bad idea though, unless your on a down hill and have a good roll going.
Actually no shifting with an auto
. In all seriousness, as a daily driver with pretty much the same route to work it's OK to want to skip a shift once in a while, especially this one steep hill I almost always sit at a red light every day. I.e. depends on the situation. Of course in the big picture would never give up my manual for an auto.
. In all seriousness, as a daily driver with pretty much the same route to work it's OK to want to skip a shift once in a while, especially this one steep hill I almost always sit at a red light every day. I.e. depends on the situation. Of course in the big picture would never give up my manual for an auto.
1-3-5-6
I agree. Been driving for 32 years. This works the best. I don't know how folks go through clutches as fast as they do. I have an 05 GTO with 400 horses, 76,000 miles and I'm still on the original clutch. And that even includes quite a few smokey burn outs and several track sessions on a very large road course. I just don't understand it.
Regards,
Pat
I agree. Been driving for 32 years. This works the best. I don't know how folks go through clutches as fast as they do. I have an 05 GTO with 400 horses, 76,000 miles and I'm still on the original clutch. And that even includes quite a few smokey burn outs and several track sessions on a very large road course. I just don't understand it.
Regards,
Pat
Not much traffic, not much acceleration needed, not merging etc. sure.
Pat
I'm a 1-3-5-6'er too, but with a Cooper hardtop, the motor lacks the torque to shift earlier and keep the revs down. Seems like I have to rev it out a little more before grabbing the next gear. My previous car, a Lexus IS300, had more horsies and had more torque than my MINI, so the 1-3-5 (no 6) was quite economical and smooth.
I imagine the Cooper S would be a much easier 1-3-5-6....
I never start in second gear. Rowing the shifter is about the only exercise that I ever get!!!
I imagine the Cooper S would be a much easier 1-3-5-6....
I never start in second gear. Rowing the shifter is about the only exercise that I ever get!!!
Last edited by dhoosee; Nov 23, 2008 at 05:50 PM.
I agree. I think over the long haul if you do it a lot the clutch will wear faster. Just my opinion.
Why is it I need another new clutch again?
I'm older and a lot more cautious. I try to keep my hot rodding on the track. I still miss gears on my goat.(Purposefully) It has the 2nd gear interlock that I have never bypassed. But I also go from 2nd to 4th a lot and from 4th to 6th a lot. Of course that is on a Sunday or freeway driving. My goat is my everyday driver so I have learned to save gas. I get about 17.2 in town if I keep my foot out of it. 14 if I drive it like it's meant to be driven. On a freeway trip with cruise and 6th gear I get about 24.5 MPG. (This according to the cars computer.)
Pat
Yes, Yes it will wear it out You people better wake up. But I'm sure your deller likes to hear this
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