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Old May 12, 2009 | 12:54 AM
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I am kinda glad that it doesn't I put an aftermarket exhaust on my Spec V and everytime I switched gears it would pop. It was my N/A blow off valve.
 
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Old May 12, 2009 | 05:25 AM
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mine pops and burbles
 
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Old May 12, 2009 | 06:34 PM
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Here is a video of the sound of the Euro R56 exhaust burble. I love it. If anyone knows how I can replicate this sound on my R56 I would love to know. PM me, quote and post, send a carrier pidgeon. Whatever. I love this sound! (And no, I don't want to install an after market exhaust.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4LuMlCms2w&NR=1
 
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Old May 12, 2009 | 10:46 PM
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That sounds like crap and the smoke is no good.
 
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Old May 13, 2009 | 07:05 AM
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That sounds like crap and the smoke is no good.
Sounds like crap eh? You do understand you probably just insulted half of the MINI owners on this forum whose stock exhausts make a similar sound.

Maybe in the future you could say something like: "I prefer the sound of my own exhaust to the stock exhaust." Unless you are trying to be rude or offend people. I can't believe that would be the goal of any MINI owner though.

As for the smoke... I don't think that was smoke. It could have been a cold morning. That R56 looked a little new to be having exhaust problems--but, stranger things have happened I suppose.
 

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Old May 13, 2009 | 08:46 AM
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Mine does.
 
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Old May 13, 2009 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Carlisle
Here is a video of the sound of the Euro R56 exhaust burble. I love it. If anyone knows how I can replicate this sound on my R56 I would love to know. PM me, quote and post, send a carrier pidgeon. Whatever. I love this sound! (And no, I don't want to install an after market exhaust.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4LuMlCms2w&NR=1

I would also love to have the pop/burble sound without doing an exhaust mod. I like the sound the way it is and would just like to get the pop back that they took out.
 
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Old May 13, 2009 | 01:19 PM
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My Coopers never did pop and burble so there's nothing to miss. I think the JCWs still do this.
 
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Old May 13, 2009 | 03:04 PM
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some of you people are dumb, you want a pop and burble from your car. With the stock exhaust there is no audible pop/burble. But you don't want to do any modification to get the pop and burble. So what the heck are you thinking, if you want the pop and burble you have to modify your exhaust, understand.
 

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Old May 13, 2009 | 03:10 PM
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What is your problem? Congratulations you are the first rude dumba$$ I've seen on this board. Calling people dumb is not what what is wanted around here.
 
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Old May 13, 2009 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by AkFarina
With the stock exhaust there is no pop/burble.
I believe all/most MCSs outside the U.S. do have this feature stock, as do all of the JCWs. All of the later first gen MCSs had it with the stock exhaust, too.
 
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Old May 13, 2009 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by AkFarina
some of you people are dumb, you want a pop and burble from your car. With the stock exhaust there is no pop/burble. But you don't want to do any modification to get the pop and burble. So what the heck are you thinking, if you want the pop and burble you have to modify your exhaust, understand.
Dumb = unable to speak. It is a lesser used synonym for mute.

If you were trying to imply that I am "not intelligent" well... that really isn't very nice. You clearly have no idea who I am, what I do for a living, or where I went to school-- but I'm thinking that if you did you'd keep your nasty comments to yourself.

For clarification purposes-- the first generation of the MCS did in fact have an exhaust burble. This is well documented on NAM. Try to keep up. Additionally, the video I posted is of a stock exhaust on a European R56. There has been some speculation that this could be programmed into the MCS, and an exhaust modification might not be necessary.

So, since the older models made this sound, and the Euro spec R56 seems to still do it, a person (like myself) may not actually have to install an after market exhaust. There could be another way.

Understand?
 
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Old May 14, 2009 | 02:00 AM
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Dumb was a bad word i apologize. Some of you are ill informed. It is programed into my 09 s its just so very quiet its not audible with the stock exhaust. If you take out your resonator and maybe second cat, or muffler you will be able to hear it more. Before when i first modified my exhaust all i did was remove the resonator and muffler, left both cats alone.

This is the video i took the day i had the muffler and resonator removed. Cold start, the pop/burble became more evident over time as exhaust broke in.



If you guys would like I can get a video of my car now with my custom exhaust. It consists of a catted ragazzon dp, removed the second cat, and with the previously removed resonator and muffler. My car is still emissions legal if any of you have to worry about smog inspections.

This should help, the pop/burble is there, but with the stock exhaust it is not audible. So for all of you who do not want an aftermarket exhaust to get the pop/burble, I'm sorry your out of luck. If you remove your rear muffler or resonator you should be able to hear it. Its not to expensive to have done around 50 bucks at your local exhaust shop.
 
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Old May 15, 2009 | 06:12 AM
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To me that sounds very different than this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEbAO1WE86gn
or this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu-fyUCuVQQ


Notice they are not in North America. That's the point. R56 from areas other than NA, have the pop while we don't. We all know that the pop is 'fake'. We don't care. Some of us like the stock exhaust note and/or don't want to do any mods and we would just like to get the pop back in. That's all.

It can be done without modding the exhaust it's just a question IF BMW/MINI will allow their dealers to program it back in.
 

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Old May 15, 2009 | 06:20 AM
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We picked up a brand new JCW MINI last year and it made the "snap, crackle, pop" sound
 
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Old May 15, 2009 | 06:21 AM
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Not a bit if Snap, a lot of Crackle (Burble), and just a little Pop.



And Porthos, maybe you should have bought a Camry. Their exhaust run pretty quiet.
 
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Old May 15, 2009 | 02:23 PM
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Ready for this... It is already programed in.
 
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Old May 15, 2009 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by AkFarina
Ready for this... It is already programed in.
A quote from Motoring File, bold by me.


"Mr. Sonntag also delivered the bad news that the US market cars have indeed lost the exhaust burble so many of us have grown to love on the 2005 and 2006 cars. Apparently BMW was inundated with complaints from US customers about the sound so they decided to simply turn it off in the ECU programing. This is perhaps one off the biggest disappoints I found with the new car. Yes, it’s really not anything more than ear candy. Still, it was a great part of the 2005 and 2006’s character."

full article is here: http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/02/...the-2007-mini/

The Mr,. Sonntag referenced is the man who headed up development of the engine.
 
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Old May 15, 2009 | 10:21 PM
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hmm interesting read. but all i know is that my car pops/burbles and it sounds great.
 
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Old May 16, 2009 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Steveski
A quote from Motoring File, bold by me.


"Mr. Sonntag also delivered the bad news that the US market cars have indeed lost the exhaust burble so many of us have grown to love on the 2005 and 2006 cars. Apparently BMW was inundated with complaints from US customers about the sound so they decided to simply turn it off in the ECU programing. This is perhaps one off the biggest disappoints I found with the new car. Yes, it’s really not anything more than ear candy. Still, it was a great part of the 2005 and 2006’s character."

full article is here: http://www.motoringfile.com/2007/02/...the-2007-mini/

The Mr,. Sonntag referenced is the man who headed up development of the engine.
Thank you for looking into this! I had a feeling that since the sound was "fake" it was simply an ECU programming issue. It wouldn't make sense for people to be using the term "fake" if the sound was actually coming from a stock component of the current exhaust/muffler set up for the first gen MCS'.

So... I guess we wait and see if our respective MINI dealerships can hook us up with that "old tyme" exhaust sound. I have a feeling the that ECU in the R56 is more of a challenge for techs to work with. I only say this because... after three trips to the "devilship" they still can't seem to fix my driver window. (Unofficial word is that it is possessed, and that they need an old priest, and a young priest to fix it).
 
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Old May 16, 2009 | 01:27 PM
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Anyone know the exact cause of the pops and burble? I would guess that it had something to do with gas combustion in the exhaust system. If so, it would be a waste of gas for a sound effect. It may also increase pollutants, right?
 
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Old May 16, 2009 | 02:22 PM
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Anyone know the exact cause of the pops and burble? I would guess that it had something to do with gas combustion in the exhaust system. If so, it would be a waste of gas for a sound effect. It may also increase pollutants, right?
That is actually an interesting theory! I thought about it too briefly... but then I realized a few things...

The MINI is already quite fuel efficient compared to other gas powered vehicles in it's class. As far as wasting gas... well, that is up for debate. I know the R56 is more fuel efficient than the R53, but I attribute the fuel savings to the new engine in the R56.

Additionally, given the fact that the European market R56 still makes the burble and to my knowledge has the same fuel mileage ratings (or slightly higher if I recall the UK website mpg ratios) I don't think fuel is being wasted. I mean... if it was dripping on the ground, that would be a waste. If it's making my exhaust purr.... then that's five by five with me!

Increase pollutants? No way. The R53 would never have been allowed into California if that was the case! It had lots of burble!
 

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Old May 16, 2009 | 03:36 PM
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I'm curious as to why US Minis exhausts don't make the popping noise. And what's different mechanically compared to Euro Minis that has eliminated the sound.

Whenever I watch videos of euro minis I get a kick out of the popping exhaust. I'm digging it.
On mu 04 S. I'm running the Borla race series exhaust with the resonator removed and get pops and burbles in every gear, even when I let off the gas at highway speeds
 
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Old May 16, 2009 | 03:51 PM
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On mu 04 S. I'm running the Borla race series exhaust with the resonator removed and get pops and burbles in every gear, even when I let off the gas at highway speeds

either you missed that this rant is in the 2nd gen section.... or you're being a smartass coming over here to rub our faces in it
 
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Old May 16, 2009 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by n1tr0

either you missed that this rant is in the 2nd gen section.... or you're being a smartass coming over here to rub our faces in it
neither .
the Borla exhaust will work in the 2nd gen I beleive. and for those who dont want to change there exhaust.Couldnt you just do a one ball like the first gens?
 
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