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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 08:50 AM
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Geez you guys (goaljnky, camelpilot) are a sad, pathetic lot. I'd laugh, but it would be like laughing at a car wreck.

It is sad when things like this cannot be discussed without some people who simply cannot get over themselves enough to back away from the keyboard and realize how pathetic they sound.

Absolutely no purpose to those posts except to create angst and negativity.
 

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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 08:53 AM
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Hey, I did my part.. one of those June cars is mine!..
 
Old Jul 4, 2007 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Ken Cooper
Firstly, I just wanted to get this thread back on track. But I'll give you a more direct answer to your rather rude question:

Years ago a friend mentioned that he was impressed with the car I had just purchased. I said, "thank you". His response was, "why should you say thank you, you're not the one who designed and built the car". Actually, I had every right to perceive his statement as complimenting my decision to buy this particular car.

When I state that it's exciting that R56 sales are up 17.4% in June, to me it's exciting because it justifies my car selection, it's a compliment to me. Furthermore, it says to others who have been slamming the R56 and making me feel bad with their comments, that they can say what they want, the R56 is proving in every way to be a very successful car.
Well said

Controversy of any type has no business on NAM. If these R56 haters can't keep their opinions to themselves they should go somewhere else where people will actually tolerate a dissenting opinion.

The fact that the R56 is selling as well as other popular and successful cars like the Camry, the Accord and the Buick Lucerne should be a source of pride in this community. The R53 never sold in these mass-market type quantities. These so called Mini fans are just jealous.
 
Old Jul 4, 2007 | 08:56 AM
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if you don't like the new models why are you reading this part of NAM??
seems to me if you don't like them you wouldn't waste your time reading about them.
 
Old Jul 4, 2007 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Skuzzy
Geez you guys (goaljnky, camelpilot) are a sad, pathetic lot. I'd laugh, but it would be like laughing at a car wreck.

It is sad when things like this cannot be discussed without some people who simply cannot get over themselves enough to back away from the keyboard and realize how pathetic they sound.

Absolutely no purpose to those posts except to create angst and negativity.
Speaking of backing away from the keyboard 1748 posts since Feb ..lol
 
Old Jul 4, 2007 | 09:01 AM
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It's ego soul_embrace. They really think their opinion means something. They cannot see how sad they look.

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Speaking of backing away from the keyboard 1748 posts since Feb ..lol
And this is called misdirection. It is what people do when confronted with the possibility they could be out of their realm.
 

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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by camelpilot
Yeah ..... nice numbers.

They always are when:

- they are comparing it to a period where they started decreasing production of current model to make factory changes for new model.
- Increased factory production capacity by adding cheaper methods (and therefore lower quality) way to produce the car.
- Half the people buying that ugly thing are thinking they getting the R53. It's the R53 that is actually selling that heap.

Sorry I didnt mean to call your car a heap. But it well... is. Not that there is anything wrong with that. (You not alone, lots of heaps out there).

But yeah. Nice numbers. Welcome to the New Beetle Community.
A wise man once said that there are 3 types of people--people who know how to count and-- people who dont know how to count.

Your explanations are meaningless. The R56 has become both a commerical and critical success. Commerical in the sense that they have to run a ton of commericals to sell them and critical in the sense that the critics like to criticize it.

The old non-existing marketing campaign did nothing but make the older model harder to find and also drove resale values up. The new marketing campaign couple with the increased production has been successful on many fronts:

(1) It ensures that anyone who wants to buy one can find several to chosose from on the dealer's lot.

(2) It also ensures that anyone willing to buy a used one will be able to find one more easily and at a lower price.

I suppose in your mind, that these are negatives. It just shows that you see the glass half empty. I see it one quarter full.
 

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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 09:03 AM
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My opinion means nothing and I plan to keep it that way.
 
Old Jul 4, 2007 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Skuzzy
Geez you guys (goaljnky, camelpilot) are a sad, pathetic lot. I'd laugh, but it would be like laughing at a car wreck.

It is sad when things like this cannot be discussed without some people who simply cannot get over themselves enough to back away from the keyboard and realize how pathetic they sound.

Absolutely no purpose to those posts except to create angst and negativity.
One of my instructors at beauty college once told me that one man's angst is another man's fetish.

I was in a car accident a month ago and take exception to your comment about laughing at car wrecks.
 
Old Jul 4, 2007 | 09:09 AM
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That is why I said it would be like laughing at a car wreck. i.e. Highly inappropriate. It should be offensive to anyone. At least, anyone with any moral center at all.

Was it worded that poorly?
 
Old Jul 4, 2007 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Skuzzy
That is why I said it would be like laughing at a car wreck. i.e. Highly inappropriate. Was it worded that poorly?
Worded just fine
 
Old Jul 4, 2007 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Skuzzy
That is why I said it would be like laughing at a car wreck. i.e. Highly inappropriate. Was it worded that poorly?
I just reread your comment - my apologies for misinterpreting your post.
 
Old Jul 4, 2007 | 09:10 AM
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i ordered mine in june i'm not sure my counts in these figures or not.

yes i knew i was ordering a R56, glad i waited also cause they added a lot of features to the '07s that i really like.
 
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Originally Posted by mozzarella
Worded just fine
I concur.
 
Old Jul 4, 2007 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by soul embrace
i ordered mine in june i'm not sure my counts in these figures or not.

yes i knew i was ordering a R56, glad i waited also cause they added a lot of features to the '07s that i really like.
See some people are not fooled.
 
Old Jul 4, 2007 | 09:16 AM
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I bet a year ago sales of the R53 were slacking off because buyers were waiting until fall to order an R56. I doubt that production numbers play a role in sales figures because they should count an order in June as a sale in June, not when the car is delivered to the buyer months later. That way they can determine whether an ad campaign results in increased sales/orders at dealerships nationwide.
 
Old Jul 4, 2007 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Skiploder
I concur.
I find it interesting that all the R56 owners are so eager to agree with each other. Regardless of the topic. Does BMW still use the "youifying" concept in promoting the Mini? Or is it "weifying" now?
 
Old Jul 4, 2007 | 09:25 AM
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kind of like how the people that don't like the new minis, show up in the same thread to talk bad about them?
 
Old Jul 4, 2007 | 09:27 AM
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I find it interesting that all the R56 owners are so eager to agree with each other. Regardless of the topic. Does BMW still use the "youifying" concept in promoting the Mini? Or is it "weifying" now?
Stop compartmentalizing people by the type of car they drive - it's childish and only an ignorant person resorts to it.

I've noticed that all R53 owners are unable to cope with reality.
 
Old Jul 4, 2007 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by soul embrace
kind of like how the people that don't like the new minis, show up in the same thread to talk bad about them?
Ohhh, I like that. Very good.

Hate mongers love misdirection. Try to derail the thread by injecting something irrelevant. It is entertaining to watch them try.

I normally ignore them. They love attention. But in this case I think it would be interesting to analyze them and see how low they will sink to get attention.

EDIT: Maybe its just me, but I have never gone into the "1st Generation" forums. Seems to me that it would be inappropriate as I do not own one. But that would be logical. Darn.
 

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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 09:35 AM
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Stop compartmentalizing people by the type of car they drive - it's childish and only an ignorant person resorts to it.

I've noticed that all R53 owners are unable to cope with reality.
Childish and ignorant? Your personal attack has been duly noted and appropriate NAM authorities have been notified. On a different note, I can't say that this sort of reply is unexpected. Coming from the R56 camp it's about par for the course.
 
Old Jul 4, 2007 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Skuzzy
Ohhh, I like that. Very good.

Hate mongers love misdirection. Try to derail the thread by injecting something irrelevant. It is entertaining to watch them try.

I normally ignore them. They love attention. But in this case I think it would be interesting to analyze them and see how low they will sink to get attention.

EDIT: Maybe its just me, but I have never gone into the "1st Generation" forums. Seems to me that it would be inappropriate as I do not own one. But that would be logical. Darn.
Also, it would be nice if you would refrain from looking at the automotive rags at the news stand. You don't own any of those cars, either.
 
Old Jul 4, 2007 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Skuzzy
Ohhh, I like that. Very good.

Hate mongers love misdirection. Try to derail the thread by injecting something irrelevant. It is entertaining to watch them try.

I normally ignore them. They love attention. But in this case I think it would be interesting to analyze them and see how low they will sink to get attention.

EDIT: Maybe its just me, but I have never gone into the "1st Generation" forums. Seems to me that it would be inappropriate as I do not own one. But that would be logical. Darn.
We'll skink pretty damn low.
 
Old Jul 4, 2007 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by mozzarella
We'll skink pretty damn low.
now that's funny
 

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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 09:42 AM
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Also, it would be nice if you would refrain from looking at the automotive rags at the news stand. You don't own any of those cars, either.
ROFL! I read those magazines all the time, but I do not show up at the publishers place ranting about how those cars suck. That would be rather silly and/or foolish. But if ya like that sort of thing,..then go for it.
 



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