R55 Speedometer accuracy?
#26
The odometer and speedometer function from the same source, the transmission. If your speedometer is off, then so is your odometer. If your speedometer shows less than the actual speed, you will show more mileage on the odometer than what has actually been driven and therefore the vehicle will go out of warranty prematurely... (I remember seeing a segment on "60 Minutes" or "Dateline" or somesuch that alluded to some conspiracy in the auto industry.) The lower profile tires will also have an effect on speedometer accuracy.
Not necessarily true. I initially made the same assumption. What one does with the calculation is what matters. Again checking with GPS my Odometer is very close but the speed is 5%-6% off at all times. Over 400 miles of driving my GPS and Odometer agreed within 1 mile.
#28
Every BMW/MINI car knows exactly how fast it is driving. The speedometer is 100% accurate but it has a (maximum) 5% deviation (this is obligatory). So basically the car is intentionally showing a higher speed than actual.
In the B/C there is a secret menu V-EFF, which show the real GPS speed.
The MINI speedo is pretty accurate, I've seen R56's going 240 kmh on the speedo and the real GPS speed was 235 kmh. 242 -> 237 GPS, ..etc
In the B/C there is a secret menu V-EFF, which show the real GPS speed.
The MINI speedo is pretty accurate, I've seen R56's going 240 kmh on the speedo and the real GPS speed was 235 kmh. 242 -> 237 GPS, ..etc
#29
Non-S Speedometer issue
I just took a 5500 mile trip in our Mini. The speedo is off by about 5-7%. The odo is off by less than 3%. I checked several times using the mileage markers on the interstate, several of these were speedometer check stations. Odo and speedometer can have differing accuracy. Anyone know how to fix this?
Regards,
Harry Faulkner
Regards,
Harry Faulkner
#30
That is correct. I have checked the odometer every which way possible; Interstate millage markers, GPS, timed (based on speed from GPS), and the odometer is spot on. And it seems by my testing that the MPH reads high by a percentage not just a set number of MPH. (i.e. may read 32 at 30 MPH and 64 at 60 MPH). Not a big deal in my book.
#31
#32
BMW/Mini policy
I just took a 5500 mile trip in our Mini. The speedo is off by about 5-7%. The odo is off by less than 3%. I checked several times using the mileage markers on the interstate, several of these were speedometer check stations. Odo and speedometer can have differing accuracy. Anyone know how to fix this?
Regards,
Harry Faulkner
Regards,
Harry Faulkner
Matt
#33
Old systems - The transmission drives a cable that goes to the instrument cluster. This cable drives the odometer directly via a series of gears, and drives the speedometer needle indirectly via a spinning magnet (no mechanical coupling). You can still calibrate the odometer and speedometer separately, though. The odometer is adjusted by changing out the gears, and the speedometer is adjusted by varying the distance between the spinning magnet and the needle pickup.
New systems - The wheel-speed sensors provide a signal to the car's computer (the transmission isn't involved at all). The computer then controls the speedometer and odometer, but can apply a different "correction factor" for each gauge (The MINI gauges are computer-controlled, and have no gears/cables/etcetera - they're merely displays for the computer).
This is why the MINI odometer is usually spot-on (except for differences due to varying tire diameters), but the speedometer is often 4-6% too high. I believe that the speedometer error is intentionally-induced because of the legal liability for the automaker if the speedometer were to habitually read too low. This is likely also why the OBC-reported speed in the digital readout is closer to the truth - it's displaying the speed *before* the correction factor has been applied.
#34
My experience is the opposite of Phurbahl's. That is, the error increases with speed.
48 speedo = 45 gps (3 MPH)
67 speedo = 63 gps (4 MPH)
85 speedo = 80 gps (5 MPH)
This is good for speeding ticket prevention, but bad for getting tailgated. I tend to correct in my head as I decide what speed to drive.
48 speedo = 45 gps (3 MPH)
67 speedo = 63 gps (4 MPH)
85 speedo = 80 gps (5 MPH)
This is good for speeding ticket prevention, but bad for getting tailgated. I tend to correct in my head as I decide what speed to drive.
#35
This is why the MINI odometer is usually spot-on (except for differences due to varying tire diameters), but the speedometer is often 4-6% too high. I believe that the speedometer error is intentionally-induced because of the legal liability for the automaker if the speedometer were to habitually read too low. This is likely also why the OBC-reported speed in the digital readout is closer to the truth - it's displaying the speed *before* the correction factor has been applied.
Most European countries, Japan, Australia, New Zeland, and South American countries have laws that state the accuracy can be -0% but +10% on the speedometer. So if the car is actually going 30 mph then the speedometer can read from 30 to 33 mph but can not read lower or higher than that, and if the car is doing 80 mph then it can read from 80 to 88 mph.
There are a few countries that also add in a mileage/kilometer error as well such as in Germany where the law reads -0% to +10%+2.7kph.
For all of you just a note. On a standard 17" tire there will be a change in speed of around 1.2% between a brand new tire and a fully worn tire of the same make and model. Then there ar eth differences in manufacturing of the tire brands and size chagnes and all. This can lead up to a 6% to 7% change when your replace tires on your car. I.E. when you go from OEM Dunlop runflats to Goodyear F-1 non run flats in the same size.
if any one wants more info on this subject please ask and i can expalin a lot more about tire diameters and speed.
#36
These threads crack me up.
I've been on lots of other forums for other cars and motorcycles and it seems like there is always a thread on speedometer accuracy. The speedometer will always be off for the reasons shatzy62 mentions. As we say in the software industry it's not a defect, it's a feature!
I've been on lots of other forums for other cars and motorcycles and it seems like there is always a thread on speedometer accuracy. The speedometer will always be off for the reasons shatzy62 mentions. As we say in the software industry it's not a defect, it's a feature!
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