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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 01:14 PM
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Bad Run Flat Experience

A very interesting article at TheCarConnection - CarGirl had an awful experience with them.

http://www.thecarconnection.com/Shop...89.A12549.html

The last few paragraphs...

Run flats have several disadvantages. They are really expensive (one person on the Internet was quoted $500 per tire at a BMW dealership) and they wear out faster than regular tires (she had 24,000 miles on hers). They are frequently not in stock at the dealership. You have to check your tire pressure every two weeks according to BMW. And when you do get a flat you have to get back on a highway and drive at 50 mph when everyone else is driving at 80. Talk about frightening.

All of this, according to the BMW owners on the Internet who have been through the same Ultimate Service that we experienced, makes these kinds of tires dealbreakers for people who have had experience with them. You don't even lose a lot of weight because they are heavier than regular tires. And with some run-flats a garage must have expensive special equipment to change the tire, so few do.

But the big thing is, "who needs run-flats?" Tires are great these days. You hardly ever see cars disabled by a flat tire.

And supposing you do get a flat? Everyone has a cell phone today and most people have either AAA or roadside assistance supplied by their manufacturer, although even when it's called ultimate it isn't always. This seems to be a technology whose time has come and gone.

Tires are really important-more important than traction control and some of the other electronics that help you stay on the road. They are your contact with the road. Period.

If I buy a new car or replace my tires, they won't, I promise, be run-flats. Give me that old-fashioned spare.
Since I'm frequently away from anything resembling major urban areas, I may be seriously looking to replace my runflats with traditional tires, tires that may be more readily available or repairable. I had never given thought to replacement "challenges".

Curious as to others' thoughts and/or experiences.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 01:30 PM
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I lived with Dunlop R/Fs for 24k and should have got rid of them long before that. I did have a R/F go bad and was replaced by the dealer. I did have tire insurance but I still had to come up with $380.00 on the spot and than send the paper work off to the Ins. Co. Six weeks later I got a check.
The R/Fs were noisey and hard riding so I've replaced them with non-R/Fs
and carry a Conti Comfort Kit to repair them in case of a flat. I got a Conti Kit from Tire Rack as the sealant thats used doesn't mess up the inside of the tire your trying to inflate. You can get four good name brand tires for what you'll have to pay for two R/Fs. I have BFGoodrich g FORCE and love em.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by MaybeMCSC
A very interesting article at TheCarConnection - CarGirl had an awful experience with them.

http://www.thecarconnection.com/Shop...89.A12549.html

The last few paragraphs...

Curious as to others' thoughts and/or experiences.
Lets look at a couple of things you quoted:

They are really expensive

They cost more than regular tires but "really expensive". That is hyperbole.

they wear out faster than regular tires

That all depends upon what you replace them with. Replace them with high performance tires and you will get LESS mileage. High performance = soft, sticky tires ... less mileage.

They are frequently not in stock at the dealership.

Who buys tires at a dealership??? Do you order fish at a steak place? Why would you buy tires from a dealership? .... seriously, why The $500 price mentioned before, probably from a dealership. Order them from tirerack.

You have to check your tire pressure every two weeks according to BMW.

It normal practice to ALWAYS check your tire pressure everytime you get gas. No biggie and good practice. That said, I NEVER checked the tire pressure and had RFs. Silly me.

And when you do get a flat you have to get back on a highway and drive at 50 mph when everyone else is driving at 80. Talk about frightening.

Ahh, so what? How fast can you drive on a donut ... 50 mph. Duh. How fast on a goop filled tire? That is a silly comment, IMO.

You hardly ever see cars disabled by a flat tire.

That is total BS. Flats come and go. You go years without one and get 3 in a month. The law of averages ALWAYS catches up with you. I've read where lots of people get two flats in a week.

Everyone has a cell phone today and most people have either AAA

MUCH of the US has NO cell service. We got a flat in the desert of NV ... no cell service. Had to walk three miles to a one horse town. Use a pay phone to call AAA (yes AAA is good!). I would NEVER depend upon cell service if your traveling. Heck, there isn't even cell service on the dragon

Give me that old-fashioned spare.


Agree there PLUS the RFs.

See https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=66176
RFs save my life

People who want to autox or do track days, RFs not good

For the rest of the world ... well my MINI was my wife's daily driver. I did NOT want her to stop and change a tire or use goop or wait for AAA ... just not safe so much these days in some parts of towns. Much safer for her to "just drive home"

Everyone is different, it all depends upon what is important to you. But if I were taking a long trip, I would take a real spare.

After reading the full article, I found this

I became flustered, I'll admit, asking why BMW couldn't afford a GPS system that could find the first exit in Delaware. Then USA did the unimaginable. She put me on hold so that I didn't know I'd been hung up on. Another ten minutes wasted and my cell phone is running down (I have one bar left).

I think that somes it up, she got flustered. Her arguement about AAA doesn't hold water ... it would have been the same experience on that NJ road. Why doesn't she have GPS? How about because she didn't order it Her cell phone ran down ... why didn't she have a power cord for her car battery???

I think the best for around town would have been RFs AND goop. Long trip, real spare.
 

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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 01:43 PM
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Thing is, if they really needed to, they could have replaced the tire with a regular one and been on their way. It sounds like they want to go that route anyway...

As for us, I think there's a small difference between putting a spare in a 3 series and a spare in the Mini...although, I hear of other Mini owners running with regular tires and fix-a-flat.

My guess, it's a roll of the dice. If you find yourself needing a tow anyway, what does it matter what type of tires you have...might as well save the hassle and costs.

As for experiences, my wife has a habit of getting a flat once a year...usually after the tire is new. So far, all have been slow leaks...not one a blowout.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 06:20 PM
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My runflats are gone. Replaced with Khumos.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by MaybeMCSC
Since I'm frequently away from anything resembling major urban areas, I may be seriously looking to replace my runflats with traditional tires, tires that may be more readily available or repairable. I had never given thought to replacement "challenges".

Curious as to others' thoughts and/or experiences.
FWIW, MINI OEM tire sizes are fairly unique - while a smaller town may not have a runflat in 195/55-16, they may not have a REGULAR tire in that size, either.
I'll replace my runflats with 'regular' tires, mostly because of cost and ride. And then, as I do now, I'll have a tire plug kit and a compressor in the boot.


As for the writer, what a drama queen. She rails about the runflats, but most of the story has nothing to do with them. W/o the runflats they'd have been sitting on the freeway waiting for the turnpike tow folks.
She knew she had runflats - she could carry a spare anyway, some of us do. If she had a plug kit, she could have made a temporary repair, made it to seder and left the drama for some offense committed by the in-laws.
 
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