R50/53 Private Party MINI Sale Goes Wrong...
6th Gear
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Is this really the case or just a "in the good-o-days" type of thing? People have been screwing others over in business since business started. Sales has always been sales, some people have always been willing to lie so that they can get that little bit of extra profit, or convince you out of a few extra bucks. The big difference is that now we have the INTERNET to tell everyone about it [Emphasis added.] 
1st Gear
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Having been in the car business for a brief period and having countless sales training over the years, reading your original listing makes me think that they identified you as an "emotional" seller. This usually applies to exploiting the buyer, but in this case, they were able to identify what your hot buttons were and played to that for their benefit.
It's counterintuitive to think that putting all the caveats against selling to someone other than a mini enthusiast in your ad would result in the opposite, but, the guys that pull stuff like this are professionals and they identified what your motives were and used that against you. They live and breathe exploiting any informational advantage they can get in a negotiation. Having been around these types of people, they don't think of it as lying, they see the whole thing as a game, just like sitting at the poker table. That's how they live with themselves.
It's counterintuitive to think that putting all the caveats against selling to someone other than a mini enthusiast in your ad would result in the opposite, but, the guys that pull stuff like this are professionals and they identified what your motives were and used that against you. They live and breathe exploiting any informational advantage they can get in a negotiation. Having been around these types of people, they don't think of it as lying, they see the whole thing as a game, just like sitting at the poker table. That's how they live with themselves.
5th Gear
Joined: Jan 2006
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From: San Juan, PR
Having been in the car business for a brief period and having countless sales training over the years, reading your original listing makes me think that they identified you as an "emotional" seller. This usually applies to exploiting the buyer, but in this case, they were able to identify what your hot buttons were and played to that for their benefit.
It's counterintuitive to think that putting all the caveats against selling to someone other than a mini enthusiast in your ad would result in the opposite, but, the guys that pull stuff like this are professionals and they identified what your motives were and used that against you. They live and breathe exploiting any informational advantage they can get in a negotiation. Having been around these types of people, they don't think of it as lying, they see the whole thing as a game, just like sitting at the poker table. That's how they live with themselves.
It's counterintuitive to think that putting all the caveats against selling to someone other than a mini enthusiast in your ad would result in the opposite, but, the guys that pull stuff like this are professionals and they identified what your motives were and used that against you. They live and breathe exploiting any informational advantage they can get in a negotiation. Having been around these types of people, they don't think of it as lying, they see the whole thing as a game, just like sitting at the poker table. That's how they live with themselves.
You know, that's what crossed my mind when I read through this thread, but have had no experience with people like this to provide backup. I think it's probably what happened here.
5th Gear
Joined: Mar 2004
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From: Ohio
Having been in the car business for a brief period and having countless sales training over the years, reading your original listing makes me think that they identified you as an "emotional" seller. This usually applies to exploiting the buyer, but in this case, they were able to identify what your hot buttons were and played to that for their benefit.
It's counterintuitive to think that putting all the caveats against selling to someone other than a mini enthusiast in your ad would result in the opposite, but, the guys that pull stuff like this are professionals and they identified what your motives were and used that against you. They live and breathe exploiting any informational advantage they can get in a negotiation. Having been around these types of people, they don't think of it as lying, they see the whole thing as a game, just like sitting at the poker table. That's how they live with themselves.
It's counterintuitive to think that putting all the caveats against selling to someone other than a mini enthusiast in your ad would result in the opposite, but, the guys that pull stuff like this are professionals and they identified what your motives were and used that against you. They live and breathe exploiting any informational advantage they can get in a negotiation. Having been around these types of people, they don't think of it as lying, they see the whole thing as a game, just like sitting at the poker table. That's how they live with themselves.
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From: Irving, TX
Some of us do read. 
I am happy that you did share this story with us, I can understand how you feel. I am sorry.
Bottom line is, even though there are a few bad folks out there, the majority are good, so dont give up hope on the rest of us.
You were honest and tried to do right by the buyer. Out of your control that they lied. I think my takeaway is to not let the car go until I am confident I actually have the cash money.
Cheers.
I am happy that you did share this story with us, I can understand how you feel. I am sorry.
Bottom line is, even though there are a few bad folks out there, the majority are good, so dont give up hope on the rest of us.
You were honest and tried to do right by the buyer. Out of your control that they lied. I think my takeaway is to not let the car go until I am confident I actually have the cash money.
Cheers.
Sigh...you guys don't read do you??? This was the FREE Spare tranny that I gave them. I'm not talking about the one in the car. I bought MINI coolant, topped off the fluids, bought a new $130 MINI battery, changed the oil and filter--thinking this was going to a new MINI owner. The MINI I sold was perfect, if they want to sell the tranny, they can't disclose the condition of it because they don't know it. I was given the tranny by a friend for this reason. It worked fine except for a ticking sound, but really I don't care. It's not in my hands, and I'm not guilty of anything.
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From: San Diego, CA
6th Gear
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From: show me state
Having been in the car business for a brief period and having countless sales training over the years, reading your original listing makes me think that they identified you as an "emotional" seller. This usually applies to exploiting the buyer, but in this case, they were able to identify what your hot buttons were and played to that for their benefit.
It's counterintuitive to think that putting all the caveats against selling to someone other than a mini enthusiast in your ad would result in the opposite, but, the guys that pull stuff like this are professionals and they identified what your motives were and used that against you. They live and breathe exploiting any informational advantage they can get in a negotiation. Having been around these types of people, they don't think of it as lying, they see the whole thing as a game, just like sitting at the poker table. That's how they live with themselves.
It's counterintuitive to think that putting all the caveats against selling to someone other than a mini enthusiast in your ad would result in the opposite, but, the guys that pull stuff like this are professionals and they identified what your motives were and used that against you. They live and breathe exploiting any informational advantage they can get in a negotiation. Having been around these types of people, they don't think of it as lying, they see the whole thing as a game, just like sitting at the poker table. That's how they live with themselves.
4th Gear
Joined: Sep 2006
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From: Las Vegas
Tell you what, let me change a few of the details to this otherwise pointless story so that it warrants some genuine outrage. Let's suppose he didn't sell the car, that instead he donated it to a museum where it could be appreciated by Mini lovers for many generations. Only the week after he donates it, the director of the museum deaccensions the car from the museums collection, --sells it off in other words--, and then embezzles the proceeds to spend on crystal meth with a 19 year-old run-away in Las Vesgas.
Now that would be something to be outraged about!!
Now that would be something to be outraged about!!
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