You had me convinced until you tried to google-bomb this thread by pasting that exact same paragraph at the bottom of two of your posts.

We saw it the first time. There's no need to paste it into every post.

 

You had me at hello

 

I agree with Minimom. I have a 02 MC and when the back sunshade wouldn't close, I went to the bmw dealer in Springfield MO. (Who didn't even sell me the car) and one of the young fellas working there fixed it for free! He owns a mcs and we got to talking about our cars and he was terrific! If you have troubles with a dealership and have exhausted all avenues...it's time to switch dealers. I haven't had any mech. problems with car yet...maybe the clutch later on...but that happens to any standard.

 

I also want to add that I joined this community because of my love of the MINI COOPER! If you start slamming the car, you're slamming most of us who enjoy the mc experience. I can't respect people who use this forum for mini bashing.

 

cydewazeQuote:
Originally Posted by MiniMeg06
I'm just trying to get the car fixed.

You had me convinced until you tried to google-bomb this thread by pasting that exact same paragraph at the bottom of two of your posts.

We saw it the first time. There's no need to paste it into every post.

#2

This site should be to learn about Mini's. I personally disagree with those who think only good experiences should be posted. Making a owner aware of potential (or existing) problems makes them better able to deal with both the dealer and MINI.

Apparently MiniMeg06 is so caught up in her personal fight she can't see what others are saying. Let me try to clarify.

MiniMeg06, post your complaints only where it's appropriate. You will get more responses. Do not end every post, on every irrelevant thread, with a advertisement for your lawfirm.

 

Some people have problems with their MINIs. Some people have problems with their Kias. Some people have problems with their Porches. Some people, somewhere are having problems with every car that has ever been manufactured. This site isn't solely to espouse love and undying devotion, it's a place to be eduated about your car and the problems that will eventually crop up.

I can't respect people who blindly think that all MINIs are perfect.



This thread is like the spit bucket thingie at a wine tasting.

 

Oh well, i just think it is innapropriate to use the website to build evidence to sue Mini, manufacturer of the car we love, when clearly other means of actions can be taken.

 

I really don't want to belabor this airbag thing, but I've got a question since MiniMeg says it cycles. Are you wearing seatbelts?

Please don't slam me for asking, I've just recently noticed something with my 05 MCS .

I'm assuming you’re talking about the little sensor on the roof that says "airbag" and generally a blank little black bubble underneath it until you put something or someone into the passenger seat and it says "off" - until you buckle the seatbelt.

Recently, I've been throwing my work bag into the passenger seat when I'm on my way in or out of the office. That bag has a few folders, laptop, camera, keys, sometimes my phone, sometimes my Palm, etc. I would guesstimate the bag (along with my purse) to weigh something over 30 lbs. whenever I put it in the seat, the "off" message comes on in the black bubble. Just a few days ago, I noticed that the seatbelt light was on and could not understand why...the dinging started to drive me crazy so I reached over and buckled the belt, then the dinging, seatbelt light AND the airbag "off" message all went away.

Could it be that there really is nothing wrong with the sensor and you're just not buckling up? I highly doubt this is the case since you've stated several times that you love your wife more than the car, so of course, you wouldn't let her ride with buckling up, but I have a friend that usually refuses to buckle up and will endure the dinging because she was in an accident where the idiot responder told her she would've been dead if she had been wearing her seatbelt when the crash happened.

I love my MINI and will often make excuses for any short comings that I notice or that are pointed out to me, but there are things that could be better. Heck, I'm going in for service this weekend for a passenger door handle that won't open from the inside....but while we're there, we're also picking up my husband's 06 MCS that arrived last week.

 

MiniMeg,

Personally, I think that you are out of line. However, what it boils down to is that you have no idea how the airbag functions. We have a litigious country (go figure) and because of this manufactures have had to take matters into their own hands regarding airbags. Because we US citizens can't use common sense when putting a child in the car, they set the seat up to disable the airbag under a certain weight. I would suspect that your wife is right at the limit and to be honest, if you get in an accident with her in the car, an airbag could actually hurt her rather than help her. Check the latest studies and I'm certain you will find what I am talking about as true.

http://www.edmunds.com/ownership/saf...3/article.html

Personally I would have rather had control of the airbag myself, but people like you that file lawsuits at the drop of a hat have taken that freedom away from me...

Thanks

 

There is ACTUALLY an airbag light issue that is known, has been documented, and is the subject of a service advisory sent out to owners extending the warranty period for this item should it need to be repaired.

Sometimes people get screwed by companies and if they cannot rectify it by other means, they are forced to seek legal relief. To assume that MiniMeg's lawsuit is frivolous -- and worse, to assume that a swath of lawsuits are frivolous -- is assinine. And I hope you never need to seek such relief.

 

Well, if that is the case then what is the issue? If this is a KNOWN issue as you put it and there is a service advisory out, then getting the repair done should be no problem. Read his original posts. He stated that the light would cycle (we assume that he has an 05 / 06 form his descriptions on the location of the light) with the weight of his wife of 94 pounds. I sometimes haul computer equipment in my seat that is quite heavy and had the same issue with equipment and my wife. So I agree with MINI that nothing is wrong. So this guy starts ANOTHER lawsuit and then comes here to dig up business. PPUUULLLLEEEAAAASSSEEE.

Not all lawsuits are frivolous as I am curious to the number of fire related MINIS and the location of the point of ignition. This may be a lawsuit that is worthy of a court room. However, the ones where people sue because they got cancer after smoking 6 packs of cigarettes a day are frivolous.

This guy took his car in over and over and then ranted on an issue that is normal operation. Now he is going to SUE???!?!?!!?

Yep, you are right, no frivolous lawsuits in our wonderful country.

 

According to the poster, they aren't looking for money -- only a fix. Since you can infer that you and he are having the same problem, I'm going to take a similar liberty an assume that the dealership might have caught the relationship to weight on the front seat, if that were really the cause.

From the sounds of it, the dealership hasn't been able to rectify the problem which is what precipitated the potential lawsuit.

Also, between "all" and "none" (with regards to lawsuits, and absolutely everything else in life) there exists a large grey area, not so clearly defined. I never said that "no" lawsuits were frivolous. Based on my understanding of this particular situation, limited only to what has been posted, as well as my own experiences with my car, I'm not as quick to immediately dismiss the issue that MiniMeg is having as just another one of those frivolous lawsuits that the media keeps telling me are rampant.

 

 

Lady's & Gentleman,
Again I do NOT want one single dime from MINI, unless they want to buy the car back. I ONLY want it FIXED!!! So please no more saying I'm trying to get rich! My 1st post I was very upset because the Dealership was telling/yelling at me " If your wife was a normal the sensor would work" Yes my wife is very small at less then 5' tell and less then 94lbs. we are in our mid 40's. Sorry these are fighting words, 20 years ago I would have deck him. Marrying my wife is the best thing I have ever done! We have been togather for 8 years now. I don't think if some smartass kid talk to you like this you would be happy! As for the law firm I'm just trying to get the car fixed. They or I have not said a word about suing. My wife does put her seat belt on all the time and the light will cycle on and off driving down the freeway. So speed or anything else has nothing to do with the light cycling, it's the POS designed seat sensor. We have tested other car maker seats and they worked fine! This info is from Mini and the dealer, Mini's sensor is designed turn on the air bag with an 80lbs. person setting in the seat. ( call and ask for yourself. ) Anything less the air bag will not deploy. There are many small sensors all over the bottem seat cushion. I think the problem is my wife rear is so small ( and cute! ) all the sensors don't make contact at the same time so it will not set. I have told Mini we will sign any papers to bypass the sensor or will they mod it. If we sell the car I will bring it back so they can return it to stock. I have tryed eveything I know to try to have them make it work. I would mod it myself but I don't want to mess it up! I would like other owners to make contact with the law firm if you are having issues with your air bag light. The more people who we get on the wagon the better chance we all have.

 

Well, Mini made the car a certain way. If you dont like the car, get another.

 

MINIMeg06,

First, I never said you were trying to "make money". That was OMToast not comprehending what I had typed and going off on tangents. I simply said that you are misinformed. With your wife being so tiny (nothing wrong with this as mine is as well), having the airbag deploy could KILL her in a low veloicity accident where she might actually survive with minor bumps. The sensor coming in at 80 lbs is only an estimate, there is always a +- to that (standard high school stats). So, she is probably right on the limits of the sensor. Bottom line, there is probably nothing wrong with the car and there is definetly nothing wrong with your wife.

I highly suggest that you start reading the stats and facts about airbags before you continue your lawsuit quest as you will only get your feelings hurt and your stress level up any higher. I posted a wonderful link to an article that explains what I am talking about. If anything talk to a car professional that you trust and like others have said you might want to speak to another dealer to get a second opinion.

Lastly, you still haven't told us what year your car is. I assume that it is an 06 by your sig. In the 06 we have TWO airbag lights. One above our heads that signals the passenger airbag off and on (this is the one I think you are talking about) and the other that is on the dash which is red. The red one signals a malfunction in the system. I think that a lot of people are confused over which one is flickering thus causing the arguments. If you could clarify this, it would help. If it is red, then I back you 100% and there is an issue with your car that should be fixed and with a cool head you should locate another dealer.

 

How did this thread turn into an all out attack on MINIs? I understand the MiniMeg is upset about the sensor cycling, but to be so harsh and calling the car a "POS" and bashing MINI is not what this community is about. We are enthusiasts that understand all cars have their shortcomings, but we are primarily part of this community because we like our cars and have fun driving them. I understand that you love your wife more than any automobile, so I ask you this, is your wife still driving the car? If not, then please refrain from slamming MINIs. If your wife is still driving the car, why is that, if the car is such a "POS"?
/rant

 

Flakey... if you aren't all wonked off about people trying to milk the system, why the hell do you care whether or not this guy sues MINI? It has no bearing on you.

 

daflake, you make a good point. You know there's a reason why children are supposed to ride in the back seat of a car under a certain age: They're too small and light for the airbags. What does the average 10 year old weight? More than 80 pounds I'd wager these days. If MiniMeg is so tiny as to create a problem with the airbag, then she fits into that physical class of people that are going to have problems with almost any car they drive. I've always been at the other end of the scale, too tall to fit in most fun cars.

 

This is the worst hijacking I've ever seen.

 

My point exactly.

I am not above a little hijacking at times myself. One of the reasons I posted is because Minimeg has done this in other threads with a poster describing an unrelated problem. He/she jumps in with the air bag issue, call my lawyer, and MINIs are crap.

Start your own thread, Minimeg. I have some curiosity as to Tewebb's situation but that is now totally lost in the air bag light war.

 

Hey QueenB. I have been talking with Tom and I think he's in good shape. He is waiting on his deposit back.

 

Wrong log in

 

My alter ego. Posting from home at lunch.

Not exactly what I was curious about but I hope he gets a MINI to enjoy.